The bismarch didn't last too long, but what a battleship...

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  1. Peter Simpson

    Peter Simpson Expert Licensed User

    Named after the Chancellor Otto von Bismarck:
    Yes I don't just like my mobster history, mainly the Irish and Italian Mafia (The Mob). But I also like my WWII battleship and submarine (U-Boat) history, and basically submarines full stop.

    Talking about packing some power back in the day:
    She took out our pride and joy the British battlecruiser HMS Hood, she also damaged the British battleship Prince of Wales.

    Oops, I forgot to mention that the German cruiser Prinz Eugen was also at that battle. Us Brits got torn to shreds during that battle.

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  2. HotShoe

    HotShoe Well-Known Member Licensed User

    And probably would have lived through that engagement if a torpedo wouldn't have jammed her rudder.

    --- Jem
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  3. Peter Simpson

    Peter Simpson Expert Licensed User

    Bismarch's first battle happened West of Iceland, East of Greenland, her second and final battle happened somewhere South West of Ireland.

    That's was actually the Bismarch's second encounter with the Royal Navy. After Sinking the Hood and seriously damaging the Prince of Wales, the Bismarch was hunted down and was spotted by a British spotter plane, the spotter then radioed in Bismarch's positions. It was actually pure luck that the spotter saw the Bismarch (according to the spotter himself). Anyway as you know, the rest is history with the torpedo hit and the jammed rudder.

    Awesome, awesome, awesome battleships.

    The one fact that always get me thinking @HotShoe is this. Just under 40,000 submariner went out in U-boats during WW2, less than 10,000 made it back home to love ones.
    German submariner were all given an aftershave called 4711 as standard to help with the small. I've got a bottle of 4711 here, trust me when I say that it smalls aweful :)
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  4. KMatle

    KMatle Expert Licensed User

    Yep, 4711 comes from the town (Cologne) I lived for 40 years. It IS for the older people here in Germany or to kill some rats in the backyard :D
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  5. JakeBullet70

    JakeBullet70 Well-Known Member Licensed User

    As I understand the Hood had some design flaws. I mean 3 people survived the sinking. Something was wrong.
    Prince of Wales still had teething issues and could not shoot her way out of a paper bag. LOL

    What makes the Bismark interesting was the speed, she could run away from any other battleship of the day as well as slug it out and only the fast cruisers could catch her and then they caught hell. :) But my favorite is the Iowa class. Speed, firepower and a true fire-control radar.

    If you really want to have fun with the big ships try Battlestations: Pacific on steam.
  6. Peter Simpson

    Peter Simpson Expert Licensed User

    The Hood went in for a full refit but didn't stay in dry dock long enough to get her paper thin upper deck refitted with thicker deck plating. She used to do a lot of diplomatic promotional work for the sovereignty before the war, thus never had the time.

    The Prince of Wales was in fact not too bad of a ship. Don't forget the both British ships were charging at the German ships at the time and couldn't fire the side mounted guns until they turned to port, that maneuver just came that little bit too late for them.

    The Prince of Wales did her fare share extremely well @JakeBullet70. I take it that you're an American. You do know that the Yamato was the world's most powerful and also the largest battleship ever built. I just love my WW2 information, interesting period of time, especially the German development curve.

    You should look at the final journey of U-234, and what it's mission was.

    Right it's time for a nice hot drink, anybody fancy a cup of tea :)
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  7. JakeBullet70

    JakeBullet70 Well-Known Member Licensed User

    Ah that was it. The upper deck armor and plunging fire. Ouch! And crossing the T. Every Admirals dream.

    From Wikipedia:
    Good ship, don't get me wrong but it did have teething problems.

    Yamato and Musashi was VERY powerful but had inferior fire control radar compared to the Americans. In the Battle of Leyte Gulf you really see that what difference that makes. In fact that's my favorite WW2 navel battle. But Air power ended it all in, no more big guns.

    No worries @Peter Simpson I am just another WW2 fan!
  8. Sanjaya

    Sanjaya Member Licensed User

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