The Final Chapter in wish..please Erel..pretty Please ;)

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  1. Jmu5667

    Jmu5667 Well-Known Member Licensed User

    Hi All

    I have stared to look at windows phone 8 development....oh dear....compared to b4X it is another world. It would be so great is B4W was created, it would consolidate the whole development platform. So, my wish would be that Erel would consider developing this in the future.

    I am sure there are a lot of developers who feel the same. Love to get some feed back on this post.

    Kind Regards

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  2. Erel

    Erel Administrator Staff Member Licensed User

    Currently Windows Phone share is less than 3%. I think that there are other more interesting platforms (browser clients for example).

    Anyway if we are talking about the next chapter for B4X...

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  3. LucaMs

    LucaMs Expert Licensed User

    I agree and Microsoft's tools for his S.O. will be probably almost perfect.

    Rather, Microsoft should develop for Android (or B4A :D).

    I'm not so smart to understand that next chapter :( :)
  4. Erel

    Erel Administrator Staff Member Licensed User

    The IDE is being rewritten based on a new UI technology (wpf instead of WinForms) and a new set of third party libraries which are used for many of the editor features.

    It will look better, improve the performance and allow features that are currently not possible. However it will take some time until it is ready...
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  5. Jmu5667

    Jmu5667 Well-Known Member Licensed User

    You have me interested....Tool windows ??? Are we gettings a new IDE for B4X ?
  6. Jmu5667

    Jmu5667 Well-Known Member Licensed User

    Along time ago in a Galaxy far far away... :D
  7. thedesolatesoul

    thedesolatesoul Expert Licensed User

    That looked quite like ...very nice interface.
    Make good use of the TreeView :)
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  8. ShaneG30

    ShaneG30 Well-Known Member Licensed User


    Why not just combine the IDEs into one? Would love a quick video of it.

    Hopefully this new IDE has Visual Studio-like IntelliSense. (PLEASE! Only thing that makes the IDE a pain to use.)
    Last edited: Mar 11, 2015
  9. ShaneG30

    ShaneG30 Well-Known Member Licensed User

    That's likely what the dockable interface defaults to, like how the B4A designer defaults to "Button1", "Button2", etc with the button's default text being "Button 1", "Button 2", etc.
  10. Troberg

    Troberg Well-Known Member Licensed User

    Yay, dockable windows! Please consider MDI (or similar) for the code windows as well. If you implement that, you'll get the official title of "Troberg's Hero".
  11. imbault

    imbault Well-Known Member Licensed User

    Wpf is in the air now?, cause last years, not a lot developper would bet on it, can you explain, why wpf vs Winforms please, for us to know

  12. Erel

    Erel Administrator Staff Member Licensed User

    Under the hood all three products share almost all of the IDE related code.

    What do you mean with Visual Studio like intellisense?

    WPF is the latest desktop UI framework. It is more powerful than winforms. In this case I wanted to base the new IDE on the latest libraries provided by Actipro which are only available for WPF applications.
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  13. Erel

    Erel Administrator Staff Member Licensed User

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  14. Troberg

    Troberg Well-Known Member Licensed User

    Well, as soon as it's released, you'll get the title!
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  15. DonManfred

    DonManfred Expert Licensed User

    Erels answer sounds for me that we will.
    I remember the voting from him to find out which .net version the most peoples have in common... Note: Actually b4a´s requirements is .net 2.0 must be installed...

    Uptodate is 4.5. I remember that the result from this voting was that we now can switch to .net 4.0

    With this said .net 4.0 will have much more features than v2 was years ago.
    i like @Erel spoiler ;-)
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  16. netchicken

    netchicken Active Member Licensed User

    Would Roslyn mean that B4A could be ported to Visual Studio?
  17. ShaneG30

    ShaneG30 Well-Known Member Licensed User

    - Basically auto-completion of If statements, When statements, For statements, etc. (Ex: After typing "If This = That", press the return key and the IDE would automatically insert a "Then" and an "End If".)

    - Also allow auto-completion via the space-bar and period keys, along with the current "Tab" key.

    - Love the new screenshot, B4X has certainly grown up :)
  18. ShaneG30

    ShaneG30 Well-Known Member Licensed User

    Roslyn is just a compiler.
  19. sorex

    sorex Expert Licensed User

    interesting... although I don't like the initial start up times of .NET programs on XP as the framework is not preloaded as it might be on later OS's
    but if it means improvements I can live with it ;)

    I hope some old feature requests get added during this rewrite aswell like TDS mentioned
    (treeview to seperate core & none core libs incl organizing them there, recursive additional lib folder search to organize libs on file/folder level ... or even better a libs folder lookup in the project folder then it's all sticked together :) )
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  20. ShaneG30

    ShaneG30 Well-Known Member Licensed User

    @Erel - One new request for the new IDE:

    New Designer Window:
    Left side: ToolBox like UI for the UI elements.
    Centered: The Designer View.
    Right: Properties.

    Make the ToolBox and Properties view dock-able. Also make the designer window itself dock-able window. (One window to rule them all)

    Oh, and please add a "Dark" theme ;)
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