Tablet purchase

JMW · Sep 15, 2017

Would you buy a tablet like this https://www.newegg.ca/special/shellshocker.aspx for developing in B4A?

alwaysbusy · Sep 15, 2017

That is a harddisk!

Lahksman · Sep 15, 2017

alwaysbusy said:
That is a harddisk!

On top of the page you can switch to the tablet or a keyboard.

I find 1Gb or RAM on the low side. And i've never been a fan of Acer, but that's a personal thing.

JMW · Sep 15, 2017

alwaysbusy said:
That is a harddisk!

It's the third item in the banner at the top
https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875103026&ignorebbr=1

JMW · Sep 15, 2017

Lahksman said:
On top of the page you can switch to the tablet or a keyboard.

I find 1Gb or RAM on the low side. And i've never been a fan of Acer, but that's a personal thing.

Thanks Lahksman, I don't have a lot of $$, but looking to get something I can use.

NJDude · Sep 15, 2017

If you are looking for some affordable tabs for developing look for Lenovo Tab3 series, I have 2 of them, the price is around $100 USD.

canalrun · Sep 15, 2017

I have a Samsung Galaxy S 8 .4 tablet which I bought refurbished from Amazon a couple years ago.

You can probably get them for almost the same price, although it doesn't have the latest technology or version of Android.

I think the Samsung tablet is the nicest I've seen.

Barry.

Cableguy · Sep 15, 2017

The main issue about that tablet it's the MOST processor... They are known for being slower than advertised

Star-Dust · Sep 15, 2017

I prefer this : https://www.amazon.it/Huawei-Mediapad-Display-Processore-Octa-Core/dp/B01L27OWJO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1505496654&sr=8-1&keywords=m3 mediapad

NJDude · Sep 15, 2017

What you are failing to understand is that the OP wants a tablet for "development", such devices should be "good enough" not top of the line or wicked fast, if you are able to run/develop your app on a "sluggish" system and works fine, it means it will be beyond crazy awesome on anything else.

Cableguy · Sep 15, 2017

you dont test a racetrack using a "pinto"! (do you?)
I agree that for development, a "ok-ish" tablet is enough... but I would stay away from MKT processors.. personal experience!

JMW · Sep 15, 2017

NJDude understands. I use my phone (Moto E) to test B4A apps now, however I also want to test on a tablet 7". I know I can test using an emulator, but prefer to test on an actual device. I don't need/want a high-end device, as I likely won't use it for anything else.

Your advice about MKT processors is well-taken, thank you.

NJDude · Sep 15, 2017

To add to what Cableguy said, also stay away from "generic cheap Chinese" devices, they in some cases have their own brew of Android and not really standard. try to get reputable or well-known brands.

sorex · Sep 15, 2017

a few years ago I bought one of these chinese tablets... a Ployer Momo 11 if I recall right.
Still works great and only needed 1 full reset so I guess you need a bit of luck with it like with cellphones or other hardware.

at work I also use a lenovo tablet (usb connected) works fast aswell but it also comes full of crap which seems to be common these days.
I don't know the exact lenovo model (A8?) but it's 8 or 9 inch with front speaker (excellent for testing the audio apps I needed to write)

the benefit of android is the wide range and price range of devices you can choose from.

LWGShane · Sep 15, 2017

JMW said:
Would you buy a tablet like this https://www.newegg.ca/special/shellshocker.aspx for developing in B4A?

Get a Kindle Fire HD 7. It's cheaper and "new".

Andrew (Digitwell) · Sep 17, 2017

I would not recommend a Kindle Fire.

I have one and it produced all sorts of odd graphical problems.
@margret produced an excellent document outlining issues with the Kindle https://www.b4x.com/android/forum/t...fire-amazon-app-store-tutorial.14864/#content

In the end I stopped using it and went for a new Hipstreet Phantom 2 from ebay, which is just about usable (low RAM and storage , pay the extra for 16GB) for testing.

I'd probably go for a known brand next time.

eps · Sep 17, 2017

Dunno - I had the original Kindle Fire, as I was getting problems when submitting Apps to their (Amazons) App store right back in the beginning.

I picked up a Fire HD when they were £30 or something - still looking to use it a bit on App/Game development to see how well (or badly) they scale.

Javier Donayre · Sep 17, 2017

I work with Lenovo Tab2 and Tab3. I think, these are a good Start for development.

Star-Dust · Sep 17, 2017

NJDude said:
What you are failing to understand is that the OP wants a tablet for "development", such devices should be "good enough" not top of the line or wicked fast, if you are able to run/develop your app on a "sluggish" system and works fine, it means it will be beyond crazy awesome on anything else.

Currently I use for my tests on physical devices: Huawei Mediapad M3 8 ' (Android 7), Samsung Galaxy Tab2 10' (Android 4.2), Samsung Tab Galaxy Tab3 7' (Android 4.2), Mediacom 701 7' (Android 4.10), Mediacom S2 10 ' (Android 4.2)
As smartphones use other devices with android 2.2, 4.2, 4.4, 5.1, 6.0

I do not agree that you need to use a lesser and slower product to do the tests in order to make sure it works on others as well.
Today, users have up-to-date devices and new Android versions. According to statistics, less than 10% have Android 5 or earlier. Most use Android 6, 7, and soon 8.
Having obsolete devices does not seem to have really functional tests, the new Android versions have changed the question of permissions very much. Testing on Android 4.4 or 5 with little help.

It's better to study new technologies.

NJDude · Sep 17, 2017

Star-Dust said:
I do not agree that you need to use a lesser and slower product to do the tests in order to make sure it works on others as well.
Today, users have up-to-date devices and new Android versions. According to statistics, less than 10% have Android 5 or earlier. Most use Android 6, 7, and soon 8.
Having obsolete devices does not seem to have really functional tests, the new Android versions have changed the question of permissions very much. Testing on Android 4.4 or 5 with little help.

It's better to study new technologies.

You are sort of correct, one thng is to have the super-duper-fast device with the latest version of android and another is to have a "cheap" device running the latest-ish version of android, I'm referring to the latter, for development you need something "just ok" that covers the users who spend their entire paychecks buying the latest technology (which will become obsolete in a week) and the ones who just want a decent device, if you are somewhat serious about developement, you have to cater to both groups.

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