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Basic4ppc and Microsoft Surface Pro ?
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Assuming that I have understood the question correctly then the Basic4ppc IDE should run fine on a Surface Pro as it seems to work fine on a Windows 8 desktop. You will however need to install .NET 2.0 but Windows 8 will prompt you do do this if you try to run any .NET 2.0 application. You would also need to install the Compact Framework to be able to compile for devices. I haven't actually done this on Windows 8 as I have no need but I don't forsee a problem doing that as the installation merely copies some files to a known destination to make them available for compilation and download to a device.
From Googling it appears the Windows Mobile Device Centre will install and work on Windows 8 but there may be problem syncing some devices with Outlook. However it seems that device exploration and file transfer does work.
As Erel says only Windows Mobile devices and not Window Phone 7 or 8 will run the programs compiled for the device. Basic4ppc desktop programs work fine under Windows 8.
From Googling it appears the Windows Mobile Device Centre will install and work on Windows 8 but there may be problem syncing some devices with Outlook. However it seems that device exploration and file transfer does work.
As Erel says only Windows Mobile devices and not Window Phone 7 or 8 will run the programs compiled for the device. Basic4ppc desktop programs work fine under Windows 8.
From what I've been reading, the Surface will be produced with both Microsoft's S.O.'s, thus targeting both the consumer and professional markets....
There are two series of the Surface Table, both running windows 8, thus the confusion, but one is Windows 8 Mobile, and the other the win32 S.O.
So the answer is divided... yes, it will run the IDE on the win32 based tablet, but neither will run native android apps without a third-party emulated of some kind, like bluestaks for the win32...
There are two series of the Surface Table, both running windows 8, thus the confusion, but one is Windows 8 Mobile, and the other the win32 S.O.
So the answer is divided... yes, it will run the IDE on the win32 based tablet, but neither will run native android apps without a third-party emulated of some kind, like bluestaks for the win32...
There are two (at the moment) Surface tablets and each has a totally different hardware design - although superficially they look the same.
The Surface currently available has an ARM processor and runs Windows RT which is the ARM based version of Windows 8 that can run what are now called Windows Store Apps (formerly Metro) but cannot run traditional desktop apps. It has a capacitive touch screen.
The Surface Pro to be launched later this month has an Intel processor and runs the full version of Windows 8, just like a desktop. The Pro, as well as having a capacitive touch screen, also has an active digitiser and supports the use of a precision stylus as well as touch. Just like a desktop it can run Windows Store Apps as well as all the traditional Windows desktop applications.
Not sure where Android apps come into this question
The Surface currently available has an ARM processor and runs Windows RT which is the ARM based version of Windows 8 that can run what are now called Windows Store Apps (formerly Metro) but cannot run traditional desktop apps. It has a capacitive touch screen.
The Surface Pro to be launched later this month has an Intel processor and runs the full version of Windows 8, just like a desktop. The Pro, as well as having a capacitive touch screen, also has an active digitiser and supports the use of a precision stylus as well as touch. Just like a desktop it can run Windows Store Apps as well as all the traditional Windows desktop applications.
Not sure where Android apps come into this question
The surface Pro is already available in Portuguese stores! ( been messing around one yesterday )
I mentioned the Android apps because some tend to confuse the 4Ppc part of the software's name... we have seen several android related questions on the winmo forum... and I though it would be an extra info to the subject in hand.
I mentioned the Android apps because some tend to confuse the 4Ppc part of the software's name... we have seen several android related questions on the winmo forum... and I though it would be an extra info to the subject in hand.
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Lucky you - I've not even seen a Surface yet. The Pro is not officially launched yet so I guess someone's has broken an embargo. What was the pricing on it?
I played with two of them, each running on Atom's.
One passed at 800Mhz, with 64GB Band Disk Drive, priced at 799€, the other passed at 1.2Ghz( or was it 1Ghz?), same HDD priced 899€...
Both felt kinda slowish, and quite confusing to work with... but that might be just my impression...
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You can check them out http:// http://www.worten.pt/ProductList.aspx?oid=30|47815&c=2657292
One passed at 800Mhz, with 64GB Band Disk Drive, priced at 799€, the other passed at 1.2Ghz( or was it 1Ghz?), same HDD priced 899€...
Both felt kinda slowish, and quite confusing to work with... but that might be just my impression...
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You can check them out http:// http://www.worten.pt/ProductList.aspx?oid=30|47815&c=2657292
I'm afraid those aren't Microsoft Surfaces. They sound like they might be the Samsung ATIV 500t tablets. Microsoft Surfaces, unlike say Ultrabooks, are a specifically Microsoft product, designed, manufactured and marketed by Microsoft. Surface by Microsoft, Buy the New Windows Tablet
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Surface with Windows 8 Pro prices:
· 64GB standalone version at $899
· 128GB standalone version at $999
Source: Next Up for the Surface Family: Surface with Windows 8 Pro – Pricing - The Official Microsoft Blog - Site Home - TechNet Blogs
Basic4Android IDE will run on this tablet (Surface with Windows 8 Pro) fine but like others have said the Surface with Windows 8 RT will only run apps from the Windows Store (formerly known as Metro apps)
No, you need to use Visual Studio 2012 on a Windows 8 Pro computer to be able to create apps for the Microsoft Store, which run on Windows 8 RT and Windows 8 Mobile devices. - MSDN – the Microsoft Developer Network
Surface with Windows 8 Pro prices:
· 64GB standalone version at $899
· 128GB standalone version at $999
Source: Next Up for the Surface Family: Surface with Windows 8 Pro – Pricing - The Official Microsoft Blog - Site Home - TechNet Blogs
Basic4Android IDE will run on this tablet (Surface with Windows 8 Pro) fine but like others have said the Surface with Windows 8 RT will only run apps from the Windows Store (formerly known as Metro apps)
No, you need to use Visual Studio 2012 on a Windows 8 Pro computer to be able to create apps for the Microsoft Store, which run on Windows 8 RT and Windows 8 Mobile devices. - MSDN – the Microsoft Developer Network
Hmm! We were talking about Basic4ppc here!