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This post is only an observation based on my professional experience and in no way provides a conclusive account for this incident.
This type of carnage is "likely" a direct result of NOT driving according to weather and road conditions. The photo depicts the aftermath - not the conditions at the time of incident - which may have been quite different (fog, snow, night time and/or a combo of).
The CMV's (trucks - commercial motor vehicles) in this photo should have never allowed themselves to be involved - yet they refuse to SLOW DOWN or get off the road when adverse weather is present! Hours of Service rules permit them to extend their normal day when they encounter adverse conditions - yet many press on and affect everyone involved.
A typical motorist braking in front of them (due to poor visibility (fog or snow), other car, or any other situation) may cause the CMV to hard brake and jack-knife / lose control.
It should be mandated (made law) in IMHO, for all CMV operators that when they encounter periods of reduced visibility, their speed be reduced to HALF the posted speed limit. Although not infallible, this shall at least give them - and the general public around them - a "chance" to react accordingly. Too often, with their high vantage point, CMV operators "think" they can see above the snow or fog and drive much faster than common sense would otherwise dictate.
This photo is typical of such aggressive behavior - by both the general public and commercial operators.
Watch "Highway thru Hell" on TV and you will see unscripted carnage filmed on a popular BC mountain road - the Coquihalla (and other famous western CDN roads) where this type of shit happens on a daily basis... and lives are needlessly lost as a result. The common denominator is that people don't (won't) slow down for local road conditions.
This type of carnage is "likely" a direct result of NOT driving according to weather and road conditions. The photo depicts the aftermath - not the conditions at the time of incident - which may have been quite different (fog, snow, night time and/or a combo of).
The CMV's (trucks - commercial motor vehicles) in this photo should have never allowed themselves to be involved - yet they refuse to SLOW DOWN or get off the road when adverse weather is present! Hours of Service rules permit them to extend their normal day when they encounter adverse conditions - yet many press on and affect everyone involved.
A typical motorist braking in front of them (due to poor visibility (fog or snow), other car, or any other situation) may cause the CMV to hard brake and jack-knife / lose control.
It should be mandated (made law) in IMHO, for all CMV operators that when they encounter periods of reduced visibility, their speed be reduced to HALF the posted speed limit. Although not infallible, this shall at least give them - and the general public around them - a "chance" to react accordingly. Too often, with their high vantage point, CMV operators "think" they can see above the snow or fog and drive much faster than common sense would otherwise dictate.
This photo is typical of such aggressive behavior - by both the general public and commercial operators.
Watch "Highway thru Hell" on TV and you will see unscripted carnage filmed on a popular BC mountain road - the Coquihalla (and other famous western CDN roads) where this type of shit happens on a daily basis... and lives are needlessly lost as a result. The common denominator is that people don't (won't) slow down for local road conditions.
This accident happened about 4 miles (as the crow flies) from my home.
We had very sudden localized whiteout conditions due to a snow squall/blowing snow at the time of the accident.
I do not know whether the accident could have been prevented. It was not safe to stop and not safe to keep driving from what I understand.
We had very sudden localized whiteout conditions due to a snow squall/blowing snow at the time of the accident.
I do not know whether the accident could have been prevented. It was not safe to stop and not safe to keep driving from what I understand.
There lies the issue... However, was it safe to slow down (not safe to drive, not safe to stop - what is the alternative - reduce your speed is logical)?
We as small public vehicle road users (me anyways) wonder if approaching large vehicles will run us over if we slow down to prevailing conditions (mostly YES on highways). This scares the be-jesus out of me..
I have had many encounters and have taken every opportunity to get off the road when this happens. However, in white outs, it is very difficult to find exits where you can get "out of the way" cause you simply can't see the signs!
The solution in such a case? EVERYONE slow the "F*%$" down to "x" speed. This way - no one will run over the vehicle in front of them. When the vehicle in front of you is travelling at less than reduced speed - what do you do (good question)? At least you have time to (potentially) react without causing as much overall damage as high speed encounters would inflict.
Summary - the higher the contact speed, the greater potential for fatal results.
The solution - [ your response here ]....
from the photo you can see the snow was not removed from the freeway.. that means it was still snowing or has just stopped.. in this case there is no way to
avoid any accident.. forget about touching the brake even slightly.. If one car slid or lost control then that's it..
the best thing in this photo is that the people now don't have to worry about the weather or road conditions
avoid any accident.. forget about touching the brake even slightly.. If one car slid or lost control then that's it..
the best thing in this photo is that the people now don't have to worry about the weather or road conditions