It's a mess!

Brexit.. Then a professional gambler.
I just realised what he meant when he repeatedly said the election is rigged.
All media, including his supporter Fox published polls after polls until yesterday.. Not a single poll indicated he was number 1.. They can't be wrong. All polls?!!!
I have no doubt there was a wide net of conspiracy.. Including cyber (manipulation) of the voting machines and the timing of bringing the email issues.

God save America.
Now anti-trump prorest in several cities.. Thousands in nyc.
Shouting the slogan "Not my president"
This election has been rigged and the results hijacked.. Americans should investigate this immediately.. I was watching the Florida results updated by the minute and noticed something strange in the race and change in numbers.. Almost a systematic and ordered patern of increments to both candidates..

everybody was shocked when trump said he wont except the result if he wont be elected now what u r doing is the same. you dont trust in your system?!

Beja said:

Not a single poll indicated he was number 1.. They can't be wrong. All polls?!!!

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the reason is simple the media tried to manipulate people to vote for clinton. the media was the whole way anti trump and pro clinton so they posted wrong polls so people
will vote for clinton and give the filling clinton is the better candidate but i am not sure about that. (and i mean for the american people.)

clinton is just another politican like all others. lots of promises but nothing will be done. trump is not a good politican so it is something different maybe good maybe bad but different. this different made hopes for the americans and i understand why they choosed trump. they are sick of all SAME politicans.

i knew from the beginning that trump will be elected. and in my opinion you dont need to be scared from him. what u know about him is what the media wants you to know.
believe me in the end the people that will make the choices is the people near to him and not him.

and dont believe in everything he said in his campaign. it was a campaign and he wanted to win it so sometime you say stuff you cannot accomplish as a president.
what you see as a citizen you dont see as a president. now when he will get to the white house he will see the whole picture and understand that not everything is so simple to do like he thought.

I bet for Trump 6 months ago. I won and my friends seem hate me now. What a fair game

Beja said:

Not a single poll indicated he was number 1

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ilan said:

you dont trust in your system?

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No

Polls have rules and can't be wrong.. there's a margin of error.. Fox News is pro Trump media and published the same results..
It wasn't elections' season talk.. it was him that was exposed to people. He bragged about evading paying tax and that was smart.. He said he will use and benefit from tax loopholes until Congress fixes them.. what a criminal can say more? If you believe the tax law has loopholes don't use them and work hard and lobby in Congress to close those loopholes even if you are not running for president. I for one, have sold a property in 2002 for $20k to someone in California.. they sent me the check.. no ID no SS card#..
at the end of the year the tax prepare was stunned that I reported that amount.. he told me (we were not smart enough).. the money was taxable even though can not be traced by IRS.. and I know this money belongs to schools where my kids go and learn, and to hospitals providing healthcare for them. it will go to the streets where I drive my car on paved roads. I can't allow an old lady cleaning the floor at McDonald's to pay Police who are protecting me and my family, and I don't contribute in that. When he and his lawyers and tax specialists were looking for ways and loopholes to escape from paying tax, he was stupid and not smart or genius as he claims.. if everyone became (smart) like him then we will end up living in a jungle, not a civilized society, because government will have no money to pay for any services.. That's why I say he was stupid.. he can't see further than his nose.
When he bragged about grabbing women from (wherever), and all that talks.. he was not talking to the public for the elections.. he was showing his real personality without external influences. Some argue that no one is perfect.. but whoever runs to lead must be a man of integrity.. he must be role model.. must have integrity.. one personality doesn't matter if he's in locker room, and a toilet or in a lecture room.. leaders should be the best, otherwise any thug can be a leader.
Trump filed 6 bankruptcies and stole millions from contractors because he was smart and used the bankruptcy law to protect himself. So Ilan, you see it's not election season talk.. yesterday he pulled down the Muslim ban statement from his website because it served it's purpose.. means he, as professional gambler, was using that card to cheat naive voters. A man of this gambling mentality could put the whole nation on the table tomorrow.

The only thing that may ease your mind is the HRC had the most votes but lost due to the archaic election process. A majority of the population does not want him as president. The country will be taking steps backwards in some areas which is really a shame. Hopefully, the checks and balance system will prevent him from doing too much damage

ac9ts said:

Hopefully, the checks and balance system will prevent him from doing too much damage

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This is what exactly the American system is doing now.. hire a known thief in your company then put a hundred guards to watch him.

I would like (at least in my country):

a) a dictator (note that I am a proponent of true democracy, which currently does not exist in any part of the World);
b) few legislative and economics experts, chosen by the dictator or by citizens;
c) a robust information system which allows licensed (*) citizens to answer to a referendum per month.

(*) the citizen must prove to be informed, via an online test (every six months).


But it is much more probable that I win millions of dollars to some rigged lottery

LucaMs said:

I would like (at least in my country):

a) a dictator (note that I am a proponent of true democracy, which currently does not exist in any part of the World);
b) few legislative and economics experts, chosen by the dictator or by citizens;
c) a robust information system which allows licensed (*) citizens to answer to a referendum per month.

(*) the citizen must prove to be informed, via an online test (every six months).


But it is much more probable that I win millions of dollars to some rigged lottery

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Ermm you live in Italy? The dictator will be corrupt and take bribes

keirS said:

you live in Italy? The dictator will be corrupt and take bribes

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Do not kid yourself, this happens in all countries, but sometime in Italy it becomes known, this is the only difference.

Beja said:

Now anti-trump prorest in several cities.. Thousands in nyc.
Shouting the slogan "Not my president"

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if Clinton won we had the same situation. it's an election, you can't satisfy everyone at the end.

If I was an american I would've gone for Trump aswell.
A fresh wind is never bad and the other one is 40+ years lying, cheating and into corruption aswell if that was a better pick I don't know.

I guess it's just this female thing. Now it's all about Michele Obama for 2020. Get real and give him a chance these 4 years. if he fucks up he necks himself the next time.

keirS said:

Ermm you live in Italy? The dictator will be corrupt and take bribes

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At least in Italy, they have the courage to openly discuss it despite this bringing a bad look at Italy. I am from Sweden and I can assure you bribes and corruption exist also there, just like anywhere in the world.

Russian deputy foreign Minster just announced Russia was in constant communication with Trump campaign. Trump has always denied any connection.

sorex said:

if Clinton won we had the same situation.

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Not exactly, because polls would have guessed.

I think that if someone ask you: "Who do you will vote?":

3/10 will answer: "mind your own business (or similar)"
2/10 will answer: "I don't know"
5/10 will answer: "Trump" or "Clinton".

This is enough to calculate who will win! It's impossbile that ALL polls were wrong, although some of them were probably false.

Well, I want to stop my posts here saying I love Trump... as I love Hitler

Beja said:

Russian deputy foreign Minster just announced Russia was in constant communication with Trump campaign. Trump has always denied any connection.

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so you immediately trust the russian?

ilan said:

so you immediately trust the russian?

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I don't and can't say that.. But given the importance of the official job, US government is expected to investigate this, specially 7 intel agencies already declared Russia was behind the emails leaks. And at least ask trimp a few questions.

BTW: I am not against Russia or any other country, moreover I think Mr. Putin is good (for Russia) and doing good job in fighting terrorism.
But talking about nationals security and interests.

Beja said:

I don't and can't say that.. But given the importance of the official job, US government is expected to investigate this, specially 7 intel agencies already declared Russia was behind the emails leaks. And at least ask trimp a few questions.

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Instead of trying to shoot the messenger and blame Trump, Russia, Seth Rich, Guccifer or your pet cat for the Hillary email leaks, why don't you read the email leaks including those of John Podesta that Weiner gave to the FBI, to find out exactly what type of person Hillary Clinton really is. You will gain new insight into the inner workings of the Clintons and the DNC. And don't forget to review the Veritas hidden videos that shines a whole light on the DNC. And if Hillary or Podesta invites you over to their home for some spirit cooking, I'd advise you to take a pass on that. If they offer you a trip with Bill on the Lolita Express to a friends tropical island, you might want to decline.