Google to cut support to all Huawei devices

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by Cableguy, May 20, 2019.

  1. Cableguy

    Cableguy Expert Licensed User

    Following Trump's decision to interdict Huawei products selling in USA, Google is also cutting support to the Chinese company. This means no more Android Updates and more seriously, no more GPlay services, including the GPlayStore.
    So, any user in the states, using a Huawei phone will no longer be able to neither install new software from GPStore nor update already installed ones!

    Is Trump the new Hitler?
    Only, rather than the "Ariane race" he enforced "Americana"?

    The worldwide open market is not so open after all!
     
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  2. NJDude

    NJDude Expert Licensed User

    Time to upgrade those Nexus phones then. :D

    You should really read history and inform yourself about who and what Hitler really did before calling Trump that, comments like this make you look silly.

    Who is Ariane? I think you mean Aryan, again, do some research first.
     
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  3. sorex

    sorex Expert Licensed User

    stupid move from Google without having any evidence of the claims that Trump is (ab)using to boycot chinese products.

    he's only punishing his own people by making everything more expensive due to the extra import taxes.
    the same goes for products exported from the US to china.

    I wonder what will happen on the Huawei phone I have. will they remove Play aswell or lock us out by the next update?
     
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  4. moster67

    moster67 Expert Licensed User

    What I have understood is that if you already have, let's say gmail installed, you will continue receiving updates.
     
  5. Lahksman

    Lahksman Active Member Licensed User

    Google is pretty much cornered here, the blacklist that is ordered by the American government implies that no American company may do business with Huawei without permission.

    Going upon the information I can find, the current phones (including the new P30) will still have and keep their Google related apps (Gplay, youtube, etc...).
    Whether or not you will get Android updates is still unclear.
     
  6. Cableguy

    Cableguy Expert Licensed User

    I know much more than you may think, about world history and European history in particular. I really don't think my comment to be that silly, even Hitler, before ordering is first major massacre, was a Hitler wannabe.
    In my home Country, we use the word "Ariana", in French... "Ariane", so I apologize if I didn't use the exact wording... But you got the message I guess... The rest was/is syntax... (I hope I wrote it correctly)

    I will not discuss this comment any longer, only the news/fact that lead me to write this post.
     
    Last edited: May 20, 2019
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  7. DonManfred

    DonManfred Expert Licensed User

    i heared (Radionews) that Huawai does not get any Android-Updates from Google directly. And they are not allowed to install Android on new Devices they are releasing.
    Bad times starting for Huawai i guess...
     
  8. Cableguy

    Cableguy Expert Licensed User

    The major problem I foresee is that end user that buys a new Huawei, buys it for its specs... And expects Android to be default... Only AFTER purchase they will figure that they no longer have access to the apps they love... So they will "floc think" (don't know if the term is correct) and start to fear the same to other brands, like Samsung, and end up preferring Apple. In my (humble) opinion, we may see in a not so far future, Google e-migrating to Europe!
     
  9. udg

    udg Expert Licensed User

    As I understand it, Huawei (as any other player) would still be able to use the AOSP version of Android on their devices.
    At the same time, not so far ago, they anticipated that they had in the works a proprietary OS (seen as a B plan). So when they will be ready they will switch to it along with potentially 1.4 billion users

    As of today, existing devices will be allowed to run G-specifc sw (e.g. GMail, Maps, PlayStore..) and probabily update it as well (not sure about this point, though).
    New devices will be AOSP-based but will neither sport any G. app nor should they have access to the Store.
     
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  10. OliverA

    OliverA Expert Licensed User

    1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
    2) No, he just likes to shoot from the hip. What would you expect from the person that was part of The Apprentice.

    See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Populism. It's not just an American thing.

    That would be a really negative outcome for the US tech sector. A side effect of this trade war (that was shot from the hip).
     
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  11. KMatle

    KMatle Expert Licensed User

    Only for NEW devices. However. No government should use it's power against companies. China will react. And probably another fine from the EU. Let's get some popcorn and watch the show... I bet on China...
     
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  12. KMatle

    KMatle Expert Licensed User

    Yup. Only new phones will be restricted. But wait 'till the end ;-)
     
  13. NJDude

    NJDude Expert Licensed User

    You will lose that bet.
     
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  14. NJDude

    NJDude Expert Licensed User

    I wouldn't hold my breath on that, same was said about Firefox OS, and Tizen and....do you remember those? yeah, they dethroned Android and took over the world right?, maybe for a regional market but global? no chance.
     
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  15. sorex

    sorex Expert Licensed User

    I'm waiting for an Aliexpress App Store to rule the world ;)
    It's already globaly used and they can afford only 10% cuts on sales instead of 30% (?) Google takes.
    And the chinese can access it aswell so it's good for everyone.
     
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  16. udg

    udg Expert Licensed User

    I wouldn't hold my breath too, although I will be no much surprised if they would start with a Chinese-only OS.
    An OS fully compliant with their laws and rules.

    What about the rest of the world? Well, maybe it would have to choose between two main blocks: US or China.
    Yes, it will be the end of the "global" Internet as it was originally dreamed of, but unfortunaltely politics is here to worsen our lives..
     
  17. KMatle

    KMatle Expert Licensed User

    Forget the Android licence. It's just a game. China is (and I don't really like that) extremly poweful. If they reclaim/sell their USA government bonds (or other nasty things) then see what happens next :D But that is just my opinion ;)
     
  18. Enrique Gonzalez R

    Enrique Gonzalez R Well-Known Member Licensed User

    I saw on the news that they already created their own OS, of course, if this OS is not Android-apps compatible it may be hard for users to buy.

    I personally think that Huawei should use Linux on their mobile phones. no politics on linux.
     
  19. charlesg

    charlesg Member Licensed User

    I think Google's hands are tied. They don't want to fight one of the big three phone manufacturers. Interesting that Google will not blackilst Google Play. Reminds me of Cyanogenmod (back in the day) which was also open source Android with Google Play. The first thing you did after installation was download the Google bits that open Android was not allowed to include. I was then the customer and not the phone manufacturer.
     
  20. Star-Dust

    Star-Dust Expert Licensed User

    He didn't expect much to receive Huawei's response, which removed the friendship list from Google on Facebook and Twitter and threatens to remove it from Instagram contacts :p

    Serious comment: probably the problem is Google. It has a dominant position to make a company go bankrupt by decreeing that it will not receive their licenses.
     
    Last edited: May 21, 2019
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