LucaMs Expert Licensed User Longtime User Jun 29, 2015 #1 Maybe because this is the first start of the environment (with the creation of a first app with an empty Activity) but it looks wonderful: it was ready in a couple of minutes only, not as the bad environment B4A that takes 2 seconds [P.S. Sorry, I must make a correction immediately: after two minutes, it was not ready. 4 or 5 minutes were needed]
Maybe because this is the first start of the environment (with the creation of a first app with an empty Activity) but it looks wonderful: it was ready in a couple of minutes only, not as the bad environment B4A that takes 2 seconds [P.S. Sorry, I must make a correction immediately: after two minutes, it was not ready. 4 or 5 minutes were needed]
LucaMs Expert Licensed User Longtime User Jun 29, 2015 #2 I don't know what "Gradle" is, but it takes only 1m 51s. Erel, learn!
LucaMs Expert Licensed User Longtime User Jun 29, 2015 #3 First environment launch, first app, first nice message: "a known bug"... wonderful
LucaMs Expert Licensed User Longtime User Jun 29, 2015 #5 Nice... Android Studio informs you that some items (views) are deprecated for some versions of Android. Wonderful (then some say that Windows is crap)
Nice... Android Studio informs you that some items (views) are deprecated for some versions of Android. Wonderful (then some say that Windows is crap)
Jaames Active Member Licensed User Longtime User Jun 29, 2015 #6 You'll quit very soon, as I'am and get back to beauty of B4A. I think that google devs hate the way they puted everything together . 85 layout folders 95 string folders 190 drawable folders 185 unnecessary functions that could by one @override this @override that this implement that which extends this one who was Final of extended first one... And hay, wait for moment when you miss spell something, you'll get 100 pages off red letters which is telling you that you screwed up something and you'll end up reading all that error report, and only then nothing's going to be clear. And after half o hour you'll find that error by looking in to your code, and not from the bug report... Don't tell me they could not make it easier. Look at the B4A.
You'll quit very soon, as I'am and get back to beauty of B4A. I think that google devs hate the way they puted everything together . 85 layout folders 95 string folders 190 drawable folders 185 unnecessary functions that could by one @override this @override that this implement that which extends this one who was Final of extended first one... And hay, wait for moment when you miss spell something, you'll get 100 pages off red letters which is telling you that you screwed up something and you'll end up reading all that error report, and only then nothing's going to be clear. And after half o hour you'll find that error by looking in to your code, and not from the bug report... Don't tell me they could not make it easier. Look at the B4A.
LucaMs Expert Licensed User Longtime User Jun 29, 2015 #7 Jaames said: You'll quit very soon Click to expand... ??? I have already closed for a long time [I was only curious and have little desire to do something really useful and necessary]
Jaames said: You'll quit very soon Click to expand... ??? I have already closed for a long time [I was only curious and have little desire to do something really useful and necessary]
Jaames Active Member Licensed User Longtime User Jun 29, 2015 #8 LucaMs said: ??? I have already closed for a long time [I was only curious and have little desire to do something really useful and necessary] Click to expand... As I am, was just curious , and after half an hour, frustrated I don't want to discourage you or anybody, that's only mine experience. Maybe I'm too stupid for android studio.
LucaMs said: ??? I have already closed for a long time [I was only curious and have little desire to do something really useful and necessary] Click to expand... As I am, was just curious , and after half an hour, frustrated I don't want to discourage you or anybody, that's only mine experience. Maybe I'm too stupid for android studio.
LucaMs Expert Licensed User Longtime User Jun 29, 2015 #9 Jaames said: Maybe I'm too stupid for android studio Click to expand... Absolutely no. It is a complex tool and you should learn it and, like all things, it takes time (and desire). But it's worth, given we have B4A? If you want to develop your own apps, no! If you want to collaborate with other people/companies, yes.
Jaames said: Maybe I'm too stupid for android studio Click to expand... Absolutely no. It is a complex tool and you should learn it and, like all things, it takes time (and desire). But it's worth, given we have B4A? If you want to develop your own apps, no! If you want to collaborate with other people/companies, yes.
S sorex Expert Licensed User Longtime User Jun 29, 2015 #10 is it still as bad as eclipse is/was or better?
LucaMs Expert Licensed User Longtime User Jun 29, 2015 #11 sorex said: is it still as bad as eclipse is/was or better? Click to expand... I don't know. I fear it is only for Android; you can use Eclipse for many other "things". Also, it seems to be "heavier".
sorex said: is it still as bad as eclipse is/was or better? Click to expand... I don't know. I fear it is only for Android; you can use Eclipse for many other "things". Also, it seems to be "heavier".
S sorex Expert Licensed User Longtime User Jun 29, 2015 #12 so it's worse Eclipse took already ages to load and that UI to place buttons and stuff was buggy as hell.
so it's worse Eclipse took already ages to load and that UI to place buttons and stuff was buggy as hell.
LucaMs Expert Licensed User Longtime User Jun 29, 2015 #13 It is better to use B4A and, ultimately, learn HTML5.
Jaames Active Member Licensed User Longtime User Jun 29, 2015 #14 sorex said: is it still as bad as eclipse is/was or better? Click to expand... in my experience , at least 2 times worst.
sorex said: is it still as bad as eclipse is/was or better? Click to expand... in my experience , at least 2 times worst.
S sorex Expert Licensed User Longtime User Jun 29, 2015 #15 I don't know if html5 can deal with everything your phone has and it had some serious speed issues too. (that's why most web games are still in Flash) for a regular app it doesn't matter that much I guess.
I don't know if html5 can deal with everything your phone has and it had some serious speed issues too. (that's why most web games are still in Flash) for a regular app it doesn't matter that much I guess.
coslad Well-Known Member Licensed User Longtime User Jun 29, 2015 #16 At the moment the only one reason that push a b4x programmer to learn Android studio is that b4a is not directly compatible with the thousands of Android library and sdk ,but it needs to wrap that libraries. If Erel will implement that function... b4a will be the best of the best
At the moment the only one reason that push a b4x programmer to learn Android studio is that b4a is not directly compatible with the thousands of Android library and sdk ,but it needs to wrap that libraries. If Erel will implement that function... b4a will be the best of the best
DonManfred Expert Licensed User Longtime User Jul 1, 2015 #17 coslad said: b4a will be the best of the best Click to expand... B4A already IS the best!
