B4A Library ProBundle

jimmyF

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I use the ULV and, I have to say, it's an incredible product.
 

Informatix

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The free distribution of some ProBundle libraries does not mean terminating support for existing donors or abandoning the whole product in the near future. What will be abandoned in the free version are the guides about security (most of you are not interested, so it's a waste of time for me), the PDFium library (too complicated to maintain and not really continued by its original author) and the CallSubExtended library (WaitFor/Sleep should be used instead).
 

JackKirk

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What will be abandoned in the free version are the guides about security (most of you are not interested, so it's a waste of time for me),
Under "guides about security" do you include the Protect My App work?

If so I would consider this a sad commentary on the B4A community - I found it exceedingly useful and have extended the concepts to my B4J apps.

Anyone who is a serious B4A developer should be aware of and use this.
 

clarionero

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Under "guides about security" do you include the Protect My App work?

If so I would consider this a sad commentary on the B4A community - I found it exceedingly useful and have extended the concepts to my B4J apps.

Anyone who is a serious B4A developer should be aware of and use this.
True, I agreed. All of Informatix's work is a clear example of a job well done and great support.

Rubén
 

JackKirk

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Only a few people showed a real interest for this work.
This can only mean 1 of 2 things:

o The vast majority of B4A users are amateurs/hobbyists.
o Most "professional" B4A users have not discovered this work.

Suggestions:

o Maybe start a B4A thread on Protect My App - maybe make the discussion paper available - get the word out.
o Extend the work along the lines we half started long ago - develop a real deep obfuscation tool - the one I have developed from our interaction is rude and crude and requires some playing around but works a treat - on B4A and B4J.
o Charge for this tool.

If there are any "professionals" out there they should appreciate the effort - otherwise, almost by definition, they aren't ("professional" that is).
 

Informatix

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This can only mean 1 of 2 things:

o The vast majority of B4A users are amateurs/hobbyists.
According to a security expert, almost all apps on the Play Store have a very weak protection or no protection at all. I thought it might result from an insufficient or poor quality offer and created a method using rather obscure C code (the ProBundle project). But the reality is that most people don't care.

o Most "professional" B4A users have not discovered this work.
I embarrass professionals because I am not a company, I do not issue invoices, I offer no guarantees and I am not even a recognized security expert. So even if they know my product, they will hesitate to use it and I understand them. I am myself a professional using security softwares. I wouldn't donate on a forum to get something to protect my servers or my files.
 

JackKirk

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According to a security expert, almost all apps on the Play Store have a very weak protection or no protection at all. I thought it might result from an insufficient or poor quality offer and created a method using rather obscure C code (the ProBundle project). But the reality is that most people don't care.
Maybe most apps are games or quasi trivial so the effort is not warranted.

I'm currently involved in a major project where security breaches would be very detrimental - both on the $ front and reputational damage if customer data was hacked. I'm using the knowledge I gleaned from the Protect My App stuff to protect a B4A app and 7 B4J apps running on AWS EC2. I have a nephew who is big into IT security - if I can swing a freebie I might get him to throw it at one of his red teams.

I am myself a professional using security softwares. I wouldn't donate on a forum to get something to protect my servers or my files.
I would never describe myself as a professional in the security area (and a number of other IT areas) but I have significant experience (first program written using paper tape in 1967). One thing I have learnt is this - no one knows everything in any one area. I would be very suspicious of a "black box" security solution but am quite happy to "donate on a forum" for quality information.
 

CaptKronos

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I have a personal interest in security but I'm not developing anything that requires much security. Therefore, I would still be interested in looking at ProtectMyApp and your other security guidance. Is it still chargeable?
 

DKnowles

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Hi Informatrix,
We use your UltimateArchiver 0.91 (and donated), after getting finger burned with ignoring the Google warnings about uploading apps < v26 I'm acting on the latest Google requirment on the day I got the email.

Can you confirm that UltimateArchiver 0.91 is 64bit compliant, I think it is as its .so file is in the armeabi-v7a list, but just want to be safe.

Yours David
 

Sasuke Sama

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whenever i see someone like you i fell like the world is in good ... thank you so much as much as my hair count
 

aidymp

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Hi @Informatix, Would you be willing to do more with your Coverflow lib? I donated ages ago and its still works well, but it needs more speed! and on some devices (Amazon Fire TV) longclick works but also triggers click!

I would like also like

vertical layout

on selecting in code it could scroll to the item (optional)

also a centre image option, adding a bitmap it always starts at the floor level (which is right) but i would like it to realise that this item is smaller, and should be centred

happily donate again and again.....

Or maybe personal modification? I will pay.
 

Informatix

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Hi @Informatix, Would you be willing to do more with your Coverflow lib? I donated ages ago and its still works well, but it needs more speed! and on some devices (Amazon Fire TV) longclick works but also triggers click!

I would like also like

vertical layout

on selecting in code it could scroll to the item (optional)

also a centre image option, adding a bitmap it always starts at the floor level (which is right) but i would like it to realise that this item is smaller, and should be centred

happily donate again and again.....

Or maybe personal modification? I will pay.
Sorry but this library won't be updated. I don't have enough time for that.
 

JackKirk

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Hi @Informatix,

Just received a somewhat vague email from Google re all apps must provide a 64-bit version to publish an update after August 1, 2019.

They say "at least one of your apps uses native code but does not currently offer a 64-bit variant" then list 2 of my apps.

The "at least one..." is the vague bit.

Doing some research on the forums and it would appear the only possible problem is associated with .so libraries.

One of my apps in their list uses Secure Vault and has, as its only .so library libSV.so - in the following folders of the apk:

apk\lib\x86\
apk\lib\armeabi-v7a\

Would you be able to tell me if this means I have a problem?
 
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