RandomCoder Well-Known Member Licensed User Longtime User Aug 12, 2015 #1 Anyone have any idea if this cheap tablet will work reasonably well with B4A or is the spec a little too low? Just want something I can take to work or on holiday to do a little coding on the go. Currently on offer at Ebuyer for £194... http://www.ebuyer.com/697250-asus-transformer-t100taf-tablet-pc-t100taf-bing-dk024b (however a quick search shows that it can often be found at the £200 mark) Technical Specifications Processor Intel Atom BayTrail-T Z3735F 1.33 GHz Up to 1.83 GHz Quad-Core 2M Cache Memory 2 GB On board Memory Hard drive 32 GB eMMC Software Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 32bit with Bing Display 10.1" Touch Screen LED Backlit Resolution: 1366 x 768 Audio Built-in speaker Built-in microphone Graphics Intel HD Graphics Gen7 Networking 802.11agn+Bluetooth 4.0 (Dual band) Power Supply 10W AC Adapter Output: 5V DC, 2A, 10W Input: 100~240V AC, 50/60Hz universal 31WHrs, 1S2P, 2-cell Li-ion Polymer Battery Pack Dimensions Width 263mm Depth 171mm Height 10.5mm Weight 1.1Kg Interfaces 1 x USB 2.0 1 x Micro USB 2.0 1 x Micro HDMI 1 x Headphone-out & Audio-in Combo Jack Misc 2.0 Mega Pixel web camera (Fixed type)
Anyone have any idea if this cheap tablet will work reasonably well with B4A or is the spec a little too low? Just want something I can take to work or on holiday to do a little coding on the go. Currently on offer at Ebuyer for £194... http://www.ebuyer.com/697250-asus-transformer-t100taf-tablet-pc-t100taf-bing-dk024b (however a quick search shows that it can often be found at the £200 mark) Technical Specifications Processor Intel Atom BayTrail-T Z3735F 1.33 GHz Up to 1.83 GHz Quad-Core 2M Cache Memory 2 GB On board Memory Hard drive 32 GB eMMC Software Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 32bit with Bing Display 10.1" Touch Screen LED Backlit Resolution: 1366 x 768 Audio Built-in speaker Built-in microphone Graphics Intel HD Graphics Gen7 Networking 802.11agn+Bluetooth 4.0 (Dual band) Power Supply 10W AC Adapter Output: 5V DC, 2A, 10W Input: 100~240V AC, 50/60Hz universal 31WHrs, 1S2P, 2-cell Li-ion Polymer Battery Pack Dimensions Width 263mm Depth 171mm Height 10.5mm Weight 1.1Kg Interfaces 1 x USB 2.0 1 x Micro USB 2.0 1 x Micro HDMI 1 x Headphone-out & Audio-in Combo Jack Misc 2.0 Mega Pixel web camera (Fixed type)
Peter Simpson Expert Licensed User Longtime User Aug 12, 2015 #2 I can't see way it shouldn't work, I would just buy it if I were you...
RandomCoder Well-Known Member Licensed User Longtime User Aug 13, 2015 #3 Peter Simpson said: I can't see way it shouldn't work, I would just buy it if I were you... Click to expand... But should I tell the missus?
Peter Simpson said: I can't see way it shouldn't work, I would just buy it if I were you... Click to expand... But should I tell the missus?
Peter Simpson Expert Licensed User Longtime User Aug 13, 2015 #4 RandomCoder said: But should I tell the missus? Click to expand... Hey that's upto you, I've got no advice about that. I have my own misses issues when it comes to tech. If I buy yet another tech item or I look at something new, she looks at me with those sexy eyes and says "do you really need that, or do you just want it", I hate it when she says that. I've not purchased a new phone in 18 months, but I will get a new Nexus nomatter what she says lol...
RandomCoder said: But should I tell the missus? Click to expand... Hey that's upto you, I've got no advice about that. I have my own misses issues when it comes to tech. If I buy yet another tech item or I look at something new, she looks at me with those sexy eyes and says "do you really need that, or do you just want it", I hate it when she says that. I've not purchased a new phone in 18 months, but I will get a new Nexus nomatter what she says lol...
S sorex Expert Licensed User Longtime User Aug 13, 2015 #5 10" is too small to code on, I worked on a netbook with that kind of screen for a year and it was a pain. Today a lot of programs have these side panels like B4A has logs/libs/etc on the side. And on such small screens/resolution it eats away too much so you lose comfort because you either remove that panel, make it smaller or it makes the other part smaller. I guess with £100 more you have a (better) laptop instead with 15" 1600xwhatever screen. I still see tablets as something to check mails, surf the net or to play a game. Even RDP on a windows tablet is not what it should be which makes it hard to use business wise. on the other hand if you plan to develop for windows mobile it's a good thing to test on I guess.
10" is too small to code on, I worked on a netbook with that kind of screen for a year and it was a pain. Today a lot of programs have these side panels like B4A has logs/libs/etc on the side. And on such small screens/resolution it eats away too much so you lose comfort because you either remove that panel, make it smaller or it makes the other part smaller. I guess with £100 more you have a (better) laptop instead with 15" 1600xwhatever screen. I still see tablets as something to check mails, surf the net or to play a game. Even RDP on a windows tablet is not what it should be which makes it hard to use business wise. on the other hand if you plan to develop for windows mobile it's a good thing to test on I guess.
S susu Well-Known Member Licensed User Longtime User Aug 14, 2015 #6 I'm using Dell Venue 8 Pro with 8" screen. When I need to type something, the virtual keyboard pop up and it hide about 1/2 screen. I never use it to code and I really don't want to do it. I guess 10" is not better for coding.
I'm using Dell Venue 8 Pro with 8" screen. When I need to type something, the virtual keyboard pop up and it hide about 1/2 screen. I never use it to code and I really don't want to do it. I guess 10" is not better for coding.
RandomCoder Well-Known Member Licensed User Longtime User Aug 14, 2015 #7 susu said: I'm using Dell Venue 8 Pro with 8" screen. When I need to type something, the virtual keyboard pop up and it hide about 1/2 screen. I never use it to code and I really don't want to do it. I guess 10" is not better for coding. Click to expand... What I like about this particular tablet is the flexibiltiy to add a keyboard and so have a kind of small laptop. Going back to the days when web books were all the rage PS I never actually owed a web book!!!
susu said: I'm using Dell Venue 8 Pro with 8" screen. When I need to type something, the virtual keyboard pop up and it hide about 1/2 screen. I never use it to code and I really don't want to do it. I guess 10" is not better for coding. Click to expand... What I like about this particular tablet is the flexibiltiy to add a keyboard and so have a kind of small laptop. Going back to the days when web books were all the rage PS I never actually owed a web book!!!
S sorex Expert Licensed User Longtime User Aug 15, 2015 #8 they are ideal if you want to visit a customer but for code or photoshop work I wouldn't recommend. I must admit that these devices are quite fast but I don't want to peek and stare on such small screen again, my eyes are already bad enough
they are ideal if you want to visit a customer but for code or photoshop work I wouldn't recommend. I must admit that these devices are quite fast but I don't want to peek and stare on such small screen again, my eyes are already bad enough
RandomCoder Well-Known Member Licensed User Longtime User Aug 15, 2015 #9 sorex said: they are ideal if you want to visit a customer but for code or photoshop work I wouldn't recommend. I must admit that these devices are quite fast but I don't want to peek and stare on such small screen again, my eyes are already bad enough Click to expand... This is just a hobby for me and there are times like brew times at work or on holiday when I would like to be able to continue with some code I'm working on. I wouldn't dream of attempting anything serious on such a small device but just interested if it would power B4A well enough to be viable for tinkering. I've got the itch to make a new tech purchase but the missus will go mad if I spend too much
sorex said: they are ideal if you want to visit a customer but for code or photoshop work I wouldn't recommend. I must admit that these devices are quite fast but I don't want to peek and stare on such small screen again, my eyes are already bad enough Click to expand... This is just a hobby for me and there are times like brew times at work or on holiday when I would like to be able to continue with some code I'm working on. I wouldn't dream of attempting anything serious on such a small device but just interested if it would power B4A well enough to be viable for tinkering. I've got the itch to make a new tech purchase but the missus will go mad if I spend too much
S sorex Expert Licensed User Longtime User Aug 15, 2015 #10 I don't know if they have a return policy where you could return the tablet for free if it doesn't suit you? Then you can quickly install B4A on it and see how it behaves and how fast it compiles. If it's too slow then you can remove B4A and send it back.
I don't know if they have a return policy where you could return the tablet for free if it doesn't suit you? Then you can quickly install B4A on it and see how it behaves and how fast it compiles. If it's too slow then you can remove B4A and send it back.
JakeBullet70 Well-Known Member Licensed User Longtime User Aug 16, 2015 #11 The 2gig of RAM is going to hurt you if you run an Android emulator.
S susu Well-Known Member Licensed User Longtime User Aug 17, 2015 #12 JakeBullet70 said: The 2gig of RAM is going to hurt you if you run an Android emulator. Click to expand... It's not true if you use AMIDuos. My Windows tablet with 2GB RAM can run Android 4.4.4 (AMIDuos) smoothly as real Android tablet.
JakeBullet70 said: The 2gig of RAM is going to hurt you if you run an Android emulator. Click to expand... It's not true if you use AMIDuos. My Windows tablet with 2GB RAM can run Android 4.4.4 (AMIDuos) smoothly as real Android tablet.
LucaMs Expert Licensed User Longtime User Aug 17, 2015 #13 [Off topic, but not too much] I hate typing on tablets (let alone on smartphones). For this reason, I have completed a few minutes ago an app that receives voice commands (mobile device) and sends the texts to the editor of B4A (PC). If anyone is interested, it is not free, it can cost between $ 49 and $ 449, depending on whether you are rich or not [I know that Windows has the voice recognition system, but it does not work for all languages] This is the link.
[Off topic, but not too much] I hate typing on tablets (let alone on smartphones). For this reason, I have completed a few minutes ago an app that receives voice commands (mobile device) and sends the texts to the editor of B4A (PC). If anyone is interested, it is not free, it can cost between $ 49 and $ 449, depending on whether you are rich or not [I know that Windows has the voice recognition system, but it does not work for all languages] This is the link.
