B4J Question A few words about ABMaterial.

Eme Fibonacci · Apr 13, 2018

That's not a question it's just my opinion. I have not found a better place to put this post and maybe it will be moved.

Why ABMaterial is still unknown and difficult to learn?

Yes I know. Yes I know. It has a lot of information and a tutorial for Dummies.

But a good tutorial should be:

1) Initial concepts (some lines)

2) Installation (some lines)

3) A hello world (an empty template and comments).

3) Wow ... now a button.

4) ...

5) ..

10) Something more complex.

But this is not the reality of ABMaterial.

Yes I know. I can learn. But it's disconcerting how uninviting it is.
ABMaterial, for me for now, seems like a good idea executed incorrectly.

Please, again, this is just my opinion.

Widget · Apr 14, 2018

Eme Fibonacci said:
That's not a question it's just my opinion. I have not found a better place to put this post and maybe it will be moved.

Why ABMaterial is still unknown and difficult to learn?

Suggestion:
Would it be better if Erel created a forum dedicated to ABMaterial so all of the info is found in one spot and it could also attract more users?
Because as it stands, I don't think more than 2% of B4X users are aware of ABMaterial unless they stumble upon it by accident.

Eme Fibonacci · Apr 14, 2018

Widget said:
Suggestion:
Would it be better if Erel created a forum dedicated to ABMaterial so all of the info is found in one spot and it could also attract more users?
Because as it stands, I don't think more than 2% of B4X users are aware of ABMaterial unless they stumble upon it by accident.

I agree. A sub topic of B4J.

Erel · Apr 15, 2018

Widget said:
Would it be better if Erel created a forum dedicated to ABMaterial so all of the info is found in one spot and it could also attract more users?

I'm sorry but I don't like to add more sub-forums. From my experience they only cause more confusion and require more moderation.

You can easily find all ABMaterial threads with the search engine:
https://www.b4x.com/android/forum/pages/results/?query=[abmaterial]

alwaysbusy · Apr 15, 2018

Erel said:
From my experience they only cause more confusion and require more moderation.

I agree. We had this suggestion before and I also think it is better it does not has a separate sub-forum. After all, ABM is just another UI for WebApps, and a lot of the the 'ABM' questions can also benefit users that do not use ABM, but use only B4J jServer for their web apps.

Widget said:
I don't think more than 2% of B4X users

I am sometimes, looking at the feedback and questions asked, under the impression it is a lot more...

inakigarm · Apr 15, 2018

About searching info (from libs to snippets, etc..) look at https://www.b4x.com/android/forum/t...out-libs-tutorials-etc-on-b4x-products.83909/

http://b4xgoodies.ddns.net:8888/ABMB4xgoodies/ (There's a specific search field (b4xwhat) about ABMaterial)

alwaysbusy · Apr 15, 2018

@inakigarm Cool, didn't know that!

Tadeu Botelho · Apr 15, 2018

moster67 said:
I also donated and only recently I started to "play" with it.

I confess, I also find it confusing. ABM is huge and within its samples, there is probably a wealth of information to help you but it can indeed be overwhelming.

Personally, I think it's easier to start with the smaller apps included in the download or simply using Erel's webapp samples for B4J here in the forum in order to get familiar with the concept and then gradually move over to ABM. This is what I am doing currently.

I also wish and think ABM would benefit from smaller tutorials (let us call them projects) to program smaller sites showing different arguments such as connecting to a DB backend, showing data in a grid and other common tasks and then I think the demo-app will make more sense for us beginners.

I'm following the same path.
Starting with parts.
I see a lot of potential in ABMaterial. This is something that allows you to use the B4X platform in a much more practical way.
I hope the author continues working on the Project.

alwaysbusy · Apr 15, 2018

Tadeu Botelho said:
I hope the author continues working on the Project.

I have been working 3 years already on it and see no reason to stop now, especially because all our in-house WebApps are going to be using it.

Tadeu Botelho · Apr 15, 2018

alwaysbusy said:
I have been working 3 years already on it and see no reason to stop now, especially because all our in-house WebApps are going to be using it.

I am happy to hear of your plans for the future of ABMaterial.
Congratulations!

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