Android Question B4A v.5.02 high resources Task Manager.

Discussion in 'Android Questions' started by joop, Jun 20, 2015.

  1. joop

    joop Active Member Licensed User

    Hi,

    I think the new B4A v.5.02 IDE takes to much resourches
    on mine configuration = NVIDIA GEOFORCE AGP en CPU 2.8 Gig
    single core,see the sys-info below.

    Pressed characters are apearing very slow , and backspace
    characters is impossible without backspacing (deleting) good characters.

    Win taskmanager giver 90% resources,this is normal not critical
    but with V5 it stays to long on 90%.

    With a short program it reacts quicker, a long file
    it is worse.

    Explicit autocomplete is turned off.

    V5 is installed on drive J:
    I know the combination graphic card and CPU is rather slow.

    Will update 4.30 be updated with the latest bugs so
    I don't have to get me a faster system.?

    I am using 4.30 again and it works ok,I am pleased with it.

    Joop



    Sys Info
    Index Score = 2.8 computer win 7 prof

    ------------------------------------------------
    Component Details Subscore Base score 2.8

    Processor Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.80GHz 3.5
    Memory (RAM) 2.00 GB 4.5
    Graphics NVIDIA GeForce 6200 2.8
    Gaming graphics 815 MB Total available graphics memory 3.2
    Primary hard disk 468GB Free (530GB Total) 5.9
    Windows 7 Professional

    System
    --------------------------------------------------
    Total amount of system memory 2.00 GB RAM
    System type 32-bit operating system
    Number of processor cores 1
    64-bit capable Yes
    Storage
    ---------------------------------------------------
    Total size of hard disk(s) 932 GB
    Disk partition (306 GB Free (401 GB Total)
    Media drive (D CD/DVD
    Disk partition (J 468 GB Free (530 GB Total)
    Graphics
    -------------------------------------------------
    Display adapter type NVIDIA GeForce 6200
    Total available graphics memory 815 MB
    Dedicated graphics memory 512 MB
    Dedicated system memory 0 MB
    Shared system memory 303 MB
    Display adapter driver version 9.18.13.774
    Primary monitor resolution 1024x768
    DirectX version DirectX 9.0 or better
    Network
    -----------------------------------------------
     
  2. Erel

    Erel Administrator Staff Member Licensed User

    Have you downloaded .Net Framework 4.5.2?
     
  3. joop

    joop Active Member Licensed User

    Yes version 4.5.51209 nvidia has no option to set hardware accelaration on / or off.
     
  4. Erel

    Erel Administrator Staff Member Licensed User

    V5 actually scales better than previous versions (scales better= can handle much larger projects). However as it is a WPF application it does require more resources. Increasing the available memory will probably result in a large improvement.
     
  5. joop

    joop Active Member Licensed User

    Thanks Erel, I will check the memory usage.
     
  6. ivan.tellez

    ivan.tellez Active Member Licensed User

    :eek::eek::eek: I haven't seen single core PCs in years.

    Could be a runtimes problem, or maybe your OS needs a reinstallation.

    In a PC used to develop software, its always recommended to have a fast PC (you can work faster)

    The B4A.exe process it's always between 0% and 1% on CPU usage in my PC.
     
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  7. joop

    joop Active Member Licensed User

    Yes,I think your right but 4.3 runs fine , so next thing I will try to
    switch off hardware acceleration from WPF by chancing the register.
     
  8. sorex

    sorex Expert Licensed User

    the product is nearly the same so I don't see either why it would eat way more resources.

    it's not that you upgrade from 3D Studio 1 to LightWave 2015 or something like that ;)

    I just did the CPU check overhere aswell. When I start typing with explicit completion disabled it also peaks to 95%.
    but it drops to 0-2% when I stop typing. it's OK for me like that.

    With explicit on it's the same but the delays are way longer (every second 1 char gets added) and impossible to work like that.

    too bad to see that the numbers of people going back to 4.x are increasing daily as a lot of work got into this :(
     
  9. joop

    joop Active Member Licensed User

    "it's not that you upgrade from 3D Studio 1 to LightWave 2015 or something like that " :)

    I don't no if V4.3 uses WPF , V5 does which needs more graphic power .
    My configuration has an index score of 2.8 with the graphic card that gives this low index.

    I think i have a mismatched videocard or something like that.
     
  10. sorex

    sorex Expert Licensed User

    I doubt it's the gfx card as the slowdown is on keyboard events. all the rest like the menus, designer etc is running at normal speed here.
     
  11. RandomCoder

    RandomCoder Well-Known Member Licensed User

    Sounds like a driver/software issue to me. I recall my first Raspberry Pi was just like this, one character every several seconds. Completely unusable. Turned out to be a compatability issue, I forget the exact cause.
    Out of interest, what type of keyboard are you using? Is it wireless, USB or PS/2?
     
  12. sorex

    sorex Expert Licensed User

    I always use USB wired keyboards on desktops.

    also, why is only B4A sensitive for this then?
     
  13. RandomCoder

    RandomCoder Well-Known Member Licensed User

    Maybe a compatability issue with WPF? Are there any other WPF based programs that you could install that might help narrow down the problem?
     
  14. sorex

    sorex Expert Licensed User

    just did another test...

    using VB2010 Ultimate the typing is instant while the intellisense is more complex and the CPU doesn't go over 45%.
     
  15. sorex

    sorex Expert Licensed User

    good question, how can I tell?
     
  16. sorex

    sorex Expert Licensed User

    I guess the only hope for us is that @Erel has some older machine in his seller or on his attic so that he can see it himself that there really is an issue.
     
  17. RandomCoder

    RandomCoder Well-Known Member Licensed User

    Just had a quick search and here looks to be a good place to try... http://waf.codeplex.com
    Check out the first link which says WAF DotNetPad is a simple and fast code editor. We'll soon see ;)
     
  18. sorex

    sorex Expert Licensed User

    it's only source.
     
  19. RandomCoder

    RandomCoder Well-Known Member Licensed User

  20. sorex

    sorex Expert Licensed User

    that installer checks for .NET 4.5 but as this is XP there ain't such thing.
     
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