R RAJAN MBA Member Licensed User Longtime User Sep 22, 2014 #281 Jmu5667 said: So I guess a mac mini quad is they way to go ? Click to expand... Yes.Even refurbished is good enough, and of course you will need an iPhone with at-least iOS 7
Jmu5667 said: So I guess a mac mini quad is they way to go ? Click to expand... Yes.Even refurbished is good enough, and of course you will need an iPhone with at-least iOS 7
Jmu5667 Well-Known Member Licensed User Longtime User Sep 22, 2014 #282 I think is would be a good idea if someone who is well versed in 'apple world' ( I am not) put together a pdf with the basic specs that we will need for B4i so no premature mistakes are made
I think is would be a good idea if someone who is well versed in 'apple world' ( I am not) put together a pdf with the basic specs that we will need for B4i so no premature mistakes are made
Erel B4X founder Staff member Licensed User Longtime User Sep 22, 2014 #283 Yes (the lowest priced Mac Mini will also be enough).
Erel B4X founder Staff member Licensed User Longtime User Sep 22, 2014 #284 I think that this is the lowest priced one: http://www.amazon.com/Apple-MD387LL-Desktop-NEWEST-VERSION/dp/B007476KRY The computer should be able to run Xcode 6. Xcode 5 requires OS 10.8.4+. I wasn't able to find the minimum version for Xcode 6.
I think that this is the lowest priced one: http://www.amazon.com/Apple-MD387LL-Desktop-NEWEST-VERSION/dp/B007476KRY The computer should be able to run Xcode 6. Xcode 5 requires OS 10.8.4+. I wasn't able to find the minimum version for Xcode 6.
Mitchboo Member Licensed User Longtime User Sep 22, 2014 #286 Jmu5667 said: So I guess a mac mini quad is they way to go ? Click to expand... Kind of the luxury ride. The Mini is not only a great Mac it can also be a superb PC.
Jmu5667 said: So I guess a mac mini quad is they way to go ? Click to expand... Kind of the luxury ride. The Mini is not only a great Mac it can also be a superb PC.
Mitchboo Member Licensed User Longtime User Sep 22, 2014 #287 Erel said: I think that this is the lowest priced one: http://www.amazon.com/Apple-MD387LL-Desktop-NEWEST-VERSION/dp/B007476KRY The computer should be able to run Xcode 6. Xcode 5 requires OS 10.8.4+. I wasn't able to find the minimum version for Xcode 6. Click to expand... Mavericks. 10.9.x.
Erel said: I think that this is the lowest priced one: http://www.amazon.com/Apple-MD387LL-Desktop-NEWEST-VERSION/dp/B007476KRY The computer should be able to run Xcode 6. Xcode 5 requires OS 10.8.4+. I wasn't able to find the minimum version for Xcode 6. Click to expand... Mavericks. 10.9.x.
Jmu5667 Well-Known Member Licensed User Longtime User Sep 23, 2014 #288 I'm not to bothered about the cost, I just want it to work first time
ilan Expert Licensed User Longtime User Sep 23, 2014 #289 i going today to buy a mac pc (mac mini or macbook pro), will see.. and hope b4i will be out soon so we can test it...
i going today to buy a mac pc (mac mini or macbook pro), will see.. and hope b4i will be out soon so we can test it...
Mitchboo Member Licensed User Longtime User Sep 23, 2014 #290 Jmu5667 said: I think is would be a good idea if someone who is well versed in 'apple world' ( I am not) put together a pdf with the basic specs that we will need for B4i so no premature mistakes are made Click to expand... Difficult to do until B4i is actually here. When that is the case, I will try to prepare a short shopping list Jmu5667 said: I'm not to bothered about the cost, I just want it to work first time Click to expand... I have been developing Mac software for quite a while. My current machine is a 21" iMac. I know a lot of developers who use the Mac Book Pro. Both are convenient because they are self-contained. The Mac Mini is interesting for a desktop PC owner because it can accept both a PC screen and a PC keyboard. So with Boot Camp or Virtual PC you can use it seamlessly in both environments. The Mini Quad is using the same processor as the iMac. The only machine more powerful is the Mac Pro, but it is most suited for graphic and video applications a developer seldom need. Have a look at apple.com for prices. I bought from the Apple Store, but Amazon could offer better deals. That said, the power of current Macs is necessary only if you need to be able to run the new systems for a longer while. Just to compile with XCode and run Mountain Lion (10.8.4) or Mavericks (10.9) or soon Yosemite (10.10), a used machine not older than 2 years can do the job very nicely. Last edited: Sep 23, 2014
Jmu5667 said: I think is would be a good idea if someone who is well versed in 'apple world' ( I am not) put together a pdf with the basic specs that we will need for B4i so no premature mistakes are made Click to expand... Difficult to do until B4i is actually here. When that is the case, I will try to prepare a short shopping list Jmu5667 said: I'm not to bothered about the cost, I just want it to work first time Click to expand... I have been developing Mac software for quite a while. My current machine is a 21" iMac. I know a lot of developers who use the Mac Book Pro. Both are convenient because they are self-contained. The Mac Mini is interesting for a desktop PC owner because it can accept both a PC screen and a PC keyboard. So with Boot Camp or Virtual PC you can use it seamlessly in both environments. The Mini Quad is using the same processor as the iMac. The only machine more powerful is the Mac Pro, but it is most suited for graphic and video applications a developer seldom need. Have a look at apple.com for prices. I bought from the Apple Store, but Amazon could offer better deals. That said, the power of current Macs is necessary only if you need to be able to run the new systems for a longer while. Just to compile with XCode and run Mountain Lion (10.8.4) or Mavericks (10.9) or soon Yosemite (10.10), a used machine not older than 2 years can do the job very nicely.
moster67 Expert Licensed User Longtime User Sep 23, 2014 #291 To learn SWIFT, I have set up a virtual machine (using VMWare) on my PC running Mac OS Maverick and installed XCode 6. I must say I am very pleased with the performance and this may due to the fact that I have a PC with a pretty fast CPU and plenty of RAM of which I have assigned 2 processors and 8GB of RAM to Mac OS when running. This system works very nice. I haven't tested yet but in VMWare I can configure that the virtual machine gets assigned its own IP-address in my LAN. I am wondering if this would permit me to use b4i without actually buying Mac-hardware?
To learn SWIFT, I have set up a virtual machine (using VMWare) on my PC running Mac OS Maverick and installed XCode 6. I must say I am very pleased with the performance and this may due to the fact that I have a PC with a pretty fast CPU and plenty of RAM of which I have assigned 2 processors and 8GB of RAM to Mac OS when running. This system works very nice. I haven't tested yet but in VMWare I can configure that the virtual machine gets assigned its own IP-address in my LAN. I am wondering if this would permit me to use b4i without actually buying Mac-hardware?
ilan Expert Licensed User Longtime User Sep 23, 2014 #292 moster67 said: To learn SWIFT, I have set up a virtual machine (using VMWare) on my PC running Mac OS Maverick and installed XCode 6. I must say I am very pleased with the performance and this may due to the fact that I have a PC with a pretty fast CPU and plenty of RAM of which I have assigned 2 processors and 8GB of RAM to Mac OS when running. This system works very nice. I haven't tested yet but in VMWare I can configure that the virtual machine gets assigned its own IP-address in my LAN. I am wondering if this would permit me to use b4i without actually buying Mac-hardware? Click to expand... i think you will have problem publishing your apps to the app store with a pc using a virtual machine i have also installed mac via VMWare on my notebook and its running very slow (i7, 8 GB RAM), everything takes lot of time, so i decided to buy a mac and doing it on the original way... (mac mini is really a cheap solution for that and it should do the job)
moster67 said: To learn SWIFT, I have set up a virtual machine (using VMWare) on my PC running Mac OS Maverick and installed XCode 6. I must say I am very pleased with the performance and this may due to the fact that I have a PC with a pretty fast CPU and plenty of RAM of which I have assigned 2 processors and 8GB of RAM to Mac OS when running. This system works very nice. I haven't tested yet but in VMWare I can configure that the virtual machine gets assigned its own IP-address in my LAN. I am wondering if this would permit me to use b4i without actually buying Mac-hardware? Click to expand... i think you will have problem publishing your apps to the app store with a pc using a virtual machine i have also installed mac via VMWare on my notebook and its running very slow (i7, 8 GB RAM), everything takes lot of time, so i decided to buy a mac and doing it on the original way... (mac mini is really a cheap solution for that and it should do the job)
ilan Expert Licensed User Longtime User Sep 23, 2014 #293 i see that there are some people here that has experience with swift and xcode6, is it possible to share some of your projects so newbies like me could learn from it a little, like how to use a timer, drawing, activities, buttons,...
i see that there are some people here that has experience with swift and xcode6, is it possible to share some of your projects so newbies like me could learn from it a little, like how to use a timer, drawing, activities, buttons,...
MaFu Well-Known Member Licensed User Longtime User Sep 23, 2014 #294 ilan12041981 said: i think you will have problem publishing your apps to the app store with a pc using a virtual machine i have also installed mac via VMWare on my notebook and its running very slow (i7, 8 GB RAM), everything takes lot of time, so i decided to buy a mac and doing it on the original way... (mac mini is really a cheap solution for that and it should do the job) Click to expand... My virtual mac (VMware) runs with good performance (i7 with 12GB, VM 4GB). To have problems publishing apps the MacOS needs to know running in a VM and must inform the app store about this. But if the MacOS has the information i think apple would blocking it running in the VM.
ilan12041981 said: i think you will have problem publishing your apps to the app store with a pc using a virtual machine i have also installed mac via VMWare on my notebook and its running very slow (i7, 8 GB RAM), everything takes lot of time, so i decided to buy a mac and doing it on the original way... (mac mini is really a cheap solution for that and it should do the job) Click to expand... My virtual mac (VMware) runs with good performance (i7 with 12GB, VM 4GB). To have problems publishing apps the MacOS needs to know running in a VM and must inform the app store about this. But if the MacOS has the information i think apple would blocking it running in the VM.
ilan Expert Licensed User Longtime User Sep 23, 2014 #295 i think apple will know if u use a mac or a VM... (you will also need to authorize you pc and does it work via VM?? can you use Itunes on your VM? i have not tried it until now)
i think apple will know if u use a mac or a VM... (you will also need to authorize you pc and does it work via VM?? can you use Itunes on your VM? i have not tried it until now)
moster67 Expert Licensed User Longtime User Sep 23, 2014 #296 My virtual machine runs well. I am more interested in knowing if b4i would be able to work with a virtual machine (with its own IP-address) since if I recall correctly, b4i works over a network (LAN) connection. As for publishing any apps, I guess I can use my wife's MAC when I need it. ilan12041981 said: i see that there are some people here that has experience with swift and xcode6, is it possible to share some of your projects so newbies like me could learn from it a little, like how to use a timer, drawing, activities, buttons,... Click to expand... I am doing some online courses with SWIFT on Udemy and (so far) I haven't found it too difficult. It is quite similar to Java.
My virtual machine runs well. I am more interested in knowing if b4i would be able to work with a virtual machine (with its own IP-address) since if I recall correctly, b4i works over a network (LAN) connection. As for publishing any apps, I guess I can use my wife's MAC when I need it. ilan12041981 said: i see that there are some people here that has experience with swift and xcode6, is it possible to share some of your projects so newbies like me could learn from it a little, like how to use a timer, drawing, activities, buttons,... Click to expand... I am doing some online courses with SWIFT on Udemy and (so far) I haven't found it too difficult. It is quite similar to Java.
moster67 Expert Licensed User Longtime User Sep 23, 2014 #297 ilan12041981 said: can you use Itunes on your VM? i have not tried it until now) Click to expand... I have set up an Apple ID and iTunes works fine.
ilan12041981 said: can you use Itunes on your VM? i have not tried it until now) Click to expand... I have set up an Apple ID and iTunes works fine.
Mitchboo Member Licensed User Longtime User Sep 23, 2014 #298 Normally, installing OS X in a virtual machine on a PC breaks the EULA just as well as using a hackintosh. But I never tried it, so I have no idea if Apple can find out. Since a VM will simulate a hardware environment, I would suppose that VMWare which is a prominent developer of VM running Windows on Mac has enough knowledge to make their virtual Mac credible. Issues reported in forums with virtual mac are often that the screen flickers, since the PC does not have the hardware double buffering, or that the very latest version of Mac OS X cannot be installed. About iOS development, I found this : http://bryanwire.wordpress.com/2011/03/05/ios-sdk-on-windows-7-with-os-x-snow-leopard-via-vmware/ It is a bit ancient, but the method described may still work. Last edited: Sep 23, 2014
Normally, installing OS X in a virtual machine on a PC breaks the EULA just as well as using a hackintosh. But I never tried it, so I have no idea if Apple can find out. Since a VM will simulate a hardware environment, I would suppose that VMWare which is a prominent developer of VM running Windows on Mac has enough knowledge to make their virtual Mac credible. Issues reported in forums with virtual mac are often that the screen flickers, since the PC does not have the hardware double buffering, or that the very latest version of Mac OS X cannot be installed. About iOS development, I found this : http://bryanwire.wordpress.com/2011/03/05/ios-sdk-on-windows-7-with-os-x-snow-leopard-via-vmware/ It is a bit ancient, but the method described may still work.
ilan Expert Licensed User Longtime User Sep 23, 2014 #299 hi guys, this is the first msg with my new mac mini, so i got now a mac, an iPhone 4 and what is missing is b4i
hi guys, this is the first msg with my new mac mini, so i got now a mac, an iPhone 4 and what is missing is b4i
merlin2049er Well-Known Member Licensed User Longtime User Sep 23, 2014 #300 Nice pickup, I might get one. How much was it?