Daestrum Expert Licensed User Longtime User Jan 31, 2024 #1 Just for fun I will attempt today to install and run B4J & B4R & B4A IDEs on my Rog Ally. Seeing as its 1/3 the size of my laptop and more powerful (processor wise) it sort of makes sense to have a tiny portable device that I can use to program on. Just waiting for new ssd to arrive before I start, so I don't have to reinstall everthing after I swap ssd's. Last edited: Jan 31, 2024
Just for fun I will attempt today to install and run B4J & B4R & B4A IDEs on my Rog Ally. Seeing as its 1/3 the size of my laptop and more powerful (processor wise) it sort of makes sense to have a tiny portable device that I can use to program on. Just waiting for new ssd to arrive before I start, so I don't have to reinstall everthing after I swap ssd's.
yiankos1 Well-Known Member Licensed User Longtime User Jan 31, 2024 #2 Very clever! Coding on the go! Please inform us...
Daestrum Expert Licensed User Longtime User Jan 31, 2024 #3 Still waiting for the ssd to arrive..... Will try with existing ssd and just try one IDE (B4J) till it arrives.
Still waiting for the ssd to arrive..... Will try with existing ssd and just try one IDE (B4J) till it arrives.
Daestrum Expert Licensed User Longtime User Jan 31, 2024 #4 Well I got B4J & Java installed (took longer than normal as fighting with joystick to control mouse is not easy, esp on 7" display). It ran perfectly. Compiled (dare I say) faster than my laptop (that has 11th gen I5). On screen keyboard is a pain to use though, so I have ordered a dock so I can use 'Real' keyboard and mouse and most importantly use hdmi to my tv so I can read it easier. Very usable though if you need to compile on the go. Last edited: Feb 1, 2024
Well I got B4J & Java installed (took longer than normal as fighting with joystick to control mouse is not easy, esp on 7" display). It ran perfectly. Compiled (dare I say) faster than my laptop (that has 11th gen I5). On screen keyboard is a pain to use though, so I have ordered a dock so I can use 'Real' keyboard and mouse and most importantly use hdmi to my tv so I can read it easier. Very usable though if you need to compile on the go.
aeric Expert Licensed User Longtime User Jan 31, 2024 #5 You eyes must be great. I can't even see youtube coding on my mobile.
Daestrum Expert Licensed User Longtime User Jan 31, 2024 #6 It has a very clear display (1080p) and a refresh of 120Hz. Admittedly, I am swapping glasses a lot. lol. Just installed the new ssd - downloading windows software from the cloud backup now.
It has a very clear display (1080p) and a refresh of 120Hz. Admittedly, I am swapping glasses a lot. lol. Just installed the new ssd - downloading windows software from the cloud backup now.
aeric Expert Licensed User Longtime User Jan 31, 2024 #7 How do you type? Is your finger too big to point to a button?
Daestrum Expert Licensed User Longtime User Jan 31, 2024 #8 I can just about manage. It does appear to have voice option on keyboard, although not tried it yet, as I am still waiting for it to finish installing windows apps. I could also use my laptops pen I suppose.
I can just about manage. It does appear to have voice option on keyboard, although not tried it yet, as I am still waiting for it to finish installing windows apps. I could also use my laptops pen I suppose.
Daestrum Expert Licensed User Longtime User Jan 31, 2024 #9 This was actually done with Microsoft typing and I'm just saying what I want. So now I can just dictate my code.
This was actually done with Microsoft typing and I'm just saying what I want. So now I can just dictate my code.
Daestrum Expert Licensed User Longtime User Feb 1, 2024 #10 Hit a snag with B4R it doesn't recognise the USB port. Had same problem on laptop, but can't remember how I got over it. More trial and error to do lol.
Hit a snag with B4R it doesn't recognise the USB port. Had same problem on laptop, but can't remember how I got over it. More trial and error to do lol.
LucaMs Expert Licensed User Longtime User Feb 1, 2024 #11 For those who, like me, don't know what a Rog Ally is, it's this: It should be very convenient to program on this device; just get some chips installed in your brain by Elon Musk ?
For those who, like me, don't know what a Rog Ally is, it's this: It should be very convenient to program on this device; just get some chips installed in your brain by Elon Musk ?
aeric Expert Licensed User Longtime User Feb 1, 2024 #12 LucaMs said: For those who, like me, don't know what a Rog Ally is, it's this: View attachment 150251 It should be very convenient to program on this device; just get some chips installed in your brain by Elon Musk ? Click to expand... You just need to wear an AR glass and you can see a 100 inch display.
LucaMs said: For those who, like me, don't know what a Rog Ally is, it's this: View attachment 150251 It should be very convenient to program on this device; just get some chips installed in your brain by Elon Musk ? Click to expand... You just need to wear an AR glass and you can see a 100 inch display.
LucaMs Expert Licensed User Longtime User Feb 1, 2024 #13 aeric said: You just need to wear an AR glass and you can see a 100 inch display. Click to expand... Useful; the typing problem remains.
aeric said: You just need to wear an AR glass and you can see a 100 inch display. Click to expand... Useful; the typing problem remains.
aeric Expert Licensed User Longtime User Feb 1, 2024 #14 LucaMs said: Useful; the typing problem remains. Click to expand... Typing in VR controller. If it can detect all the fingers movement.
LucaMs said: Useful; the typing problem remains. Click to expand... Typing in VR controller. If it can detect all the fingers movement.
LucaMs Expert Licensed User Longtime User Feb 1, 2024 #15 aeric said: Typing in VR controller. If it can detect all the fingers movement. Click to expand... On my VERY old notebook, 17", is better anyway ? (Sooner or later it will die, leaving me in a lot of trouble)
aeric said: Typing in VR controller. If it can detect all the fingers movement. Click to expand... On my VERY old notebook, 17", is better anyway ? (Sooner or later it will die, leaving me in a lot of trouble)
rabbitBUSH Well-Known Member Licensed User Longtime User Feb 1, 2024 #16 LucaMs said: Useful; the typing problem remains. Click to expand... Not if you're Stephen Hawking ?
rabbitBUSH Well-Known Member Licensed User Longtime User Feb 1, 2024 #17 and "she-who-must-be-obeyed" can give a few Map suggestions too with the UI drag and drop that is forthcoming . . . .(or going) - will make your next trip to the country-side much more interesting......you can see the... LucaMs said: Rog Ally Click to expand... ......attached to the roof .....
and "she-who-must-be-obeyed" can give a few Map suggestions too with the UI drag and drop that is forthcoming . . . .(or going) - will make your next trip to the country-side much more interesting......you can see the... LucaMs said: Rog Ally Click to expand... ......attached to the roof .....
Daestrum Expert Licensed User Longtime User Feb 2, 2024 #18 B4R IDE runs fine too. (Just had to download cp2102 driver to get it recognise the usb ports). Not sure I can try B4A - I only have Java 21 on the ally - don't know if that works with the IDE.
B4R IDE runs fine too. (Just had to download cp2102 driver to get it recognise the usb ports). Not sure I can try B4A - I only have Java 21 on the ally - don't know if that works with the IDE.
Daestrum Expert Licensed User Longtime User Feb 4, 2024 #19 I installed B4A and it appears to run ok, but crashes out with an error even on the default b4xpages app. Also SDK Manager doesn't run. Dex code Error Error in C:\b4a source\test2\Objects\bin\classes\b4a\example\main$B4AMenuItemsClickListener.class: java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot invoke "String.length()" because "<parameter1>" is null Compilation failed with an internal error. I think it's probably the Java version I am using causing it, but it probably would run ok with the correct Java. ( 8 or 14?) Last edited: Feb 4, 2024
I installed B4A and it appears to run ok, but crashes out with an error even on the default b4xpages app. Also SDK Manager doesn't run. Dex code Error Error in C:\b4a source\test2\Objects\bin\classes\b4a\example\main$B4AMenuItemsClickListener.class: java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot invoke "String.length()" because "<parameter1>" is null Compilation failed with an internal error. I think it's probably the Java version I am using causing it, but it probably would run ok with the correct Java. ( 8 or 14?)
Daestrum Expert Licensed User Longtime User Feb 5, 2024 #20 Intalled Java 14 for B4A and it ran properly. So now B4J, B4R andf B4A IDE's run on the device. Gotta find something else to try on it now lol.
Intalled Java 14 for B4A and it ran properly. So now B4J, B4R andf B4A IDE's run on the device. Gotta find something else to try on it now lol.