The Rise and Fall of Visual Basic

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  1. Mashiane

    Mashiane Expert Licensed User

  2. LucaMs

    LucaMs Expert Licensed User

  3. agraham

    agraham Expert Licensed User

    Very! That exactly mirrors my experience in coding over the last 50 years. Although starting out with machine code (even symbolic assemblers didn't exist back then) and later using various assembly languages, Forth, C, C# Java, Python etc. I have always had a soft spot for the BASIC language syntax. Although I did switch from VB to C# for .NET use as VB got over-verbose and I don't like typing a lot so C# is much terser and easier for me to both enter and read.

    And of course the flame lives on today in all B4X versions and I still maintain my own version of Basic4ppc for desktop use and have my own Basic interpreter that has traveled with me from Pocket PC to Windows Mobile and now Android and B4J.
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  4. moster67

    moster67 Expert Licensed User

  5. Alexander Stolte

    Alexander Stolte Well-Known Member Licensed User

    Nice! that's the thread i'll show my supervisor if he thinks C# is easy, just take the VB code and put it in the converter ...
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  6. Mashiane

    Mashiane Expert Licensed User

    Wait what? Does this still apply in the latest versions? I havent used C# but do understand that the same person who create Turbo Pascal or something created it, so it makes sense to use the same terminology because its home ground. Looking at the comparison operators just signifies very close similarity to javascript.

    My early prog languages were LISP and Turbo Pascal, did some C++ but then again my mind is blank now. o_O VB took over and then Erel with B4X.
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  7. LucaMs

    LucaMs Expert Licensed User

    Recently (not very) I reopened a my old VB.Net project; looking at the code... I wondered who wrote it, what it does and how! :D:(
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  8. Mashiane

    Mashiane Expert Licensed User

    @LucaMs thats also what I am afraid of, opening my legacy code..
  9. LucaMs

    LucaMs Expert Licensed User

    Don't be afraid... be sure; in fact, it will surely happen.
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  10. NJDude

    NJDude Expert Licensed User

    VB over-verbose? then you've never coded in COBOL...ooohhh the memories.
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  11. LucaMs

    LucaMs Expert Licensed User

    Beautiful language (at those times)


    I feel like to read it again :D
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  12. Mashiane

    Mashiane Expert Licensed User

    Come to think of it, this was one of my best areas.

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  13. npsonic

    npsonic Active Member Licensed User

    What really is interesting is the state of VBScript. VB might be somewhat dead, but VBScript is not going to die in very long time as Siemens is using it and will use it to years to come. It's implemented to be part of WinCC which is used by industry around the world. VBScript is kind of layer that you can use to read tags and such from CPU, so scripts are most of the time used between CPU and databases. Although with the years of experience with such systems I can say that WinCC script editor is truly horrible. It's beond me how people can build working nuclear power plant automation and such with that kind of crap.
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  14. NJDude

    NJDude Expert Licensed User

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  15. swissmade

    swissmade Active Member Licensed User

    Very nice VB story's here then we get also mine.
    Starting from ASM, Cobol and Pascal I also start to use VB at the time when we had Ms-DOS 1.1
    At the moment still ANPR software I build is running in the Netherlands and is written in VB 6. Wrote this about 16 years ago.
    Running like a charm and will do this for the next years as long I can support it with Windows.
  16. j_o_h_n

    j_o_h_n Member Licensed User

    ANPR = Automatic Number plate recognition? I'm impressed, even if you are contributing to the surveillance state!
  17. kohle

    kohle Active Member Licensed User

    The same to me, I also had also had my expierence with IBM OS/2. In this time I wrote an interpreter named KIM what worked under DOS,WIN and OS/2. Good old time.
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  18. Indic Software

    Indic Software Member Licensed User

    There is a VB fan who is still programming in VB6 even today.

    He has built a very powerful and feature rich image editing software called Photo Demon. I use this software regularly for image editing like color correction, brightness/contrast, etc.

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  19. MarkusR

    MarkusR Well-Known Member Licensed User

    Visual Basic 6 was the best development tool i ever met.
    fast & productive work, great community, great windows api, a lot of ui components, database connectivity.
    it had only a few deficiencies.
    2003 - microsoft put this product into trashcan^^
    this .net frameworks was never finished, got permanent modifications, bad backward compatible, unhandy / bad / unintuitive class design.

    i just found that GFA-BASIC 32 (a visual basic clone) is still alive, wth "Update to GFA-BASIC 32 v2.56 - April 2019" i can't believe.
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  20. omo

    omo Member Licensed User

    Believe me, i really missed my "On Error Resume Next" feature in vb6, very useful to escape stubborn program that refuses to run in some instances. All the same, thanks to B4X for bridging the gap and connecting Vb6 fans to mobile world and beyond.
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