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rraswisak

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And have no doubt, I'm not going anywhere
I will kept this carefully... i remember when first time join with this community when i ask question and no one respond (yet) to my problem, but you the first one who did !
Later... i notice in the forum you always reply for any thread (not all but mostly)... so there were no doubt that you create, maintain and show your responsibility to make all member grown and skillfull.

By the way, this is great news and can't wait to see that B4X will listed as most popular development tools sooner or later... appreciate for all your support all this time.
 

Ed Brown

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Whoah!
The big announcement today is that B4A will become free in a few weeks.
Erel, you've clearly got a flare for the dramatic but, you've understated the news here! This is EPIC news.

We've also secured funds from a US investor who shares my vision of making B4X a popular development tool. These resources will allow us to further expand.
Something tells me that this is just the tip of a much larger iceberg.

But, a question if I may, by 'open source' do you mean the IDE, compiler/parser and supporting libs? If yes, what's the plan to keep the IDE in-line with B4J/i/R?
 

Peter Simpson

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But it is truly good news! Erel is right, most other tools for mobile app developments are free and of course that attracts developers. I am sure that many developers who have heard about B4X in the past, looked it up and quickly moved on again did that because of the price tag. For me it has never been an issue, even though I have so far not made any money with B4X, but I understand that it could be for many devs.
I said this to a well know developer on here over PM not long ago. I'm more than sure that developers looking for an easier solution tried B4A in the past but couldn't afford to purchase it. I personally believe that B4A is a bargain for the price, if not for the software updates then for the absolutely fabulous always busy forum (community) and the fact that questions get answered relatively quickly. If you look at other forums, questions can go unanswered for days if not weeks. This forum if different, the community will always band together to answer questions, that is unique in itself and worth every penny in my opinion. After all, time is money, the faster you get an answer to your questions, the more productive you become.

But saying that, I personally believe that the decision that @Erel has made is the correct one for Anywhere Software and the whole B4X community at large.

Anyway, thanks again to @Erel and to everyone on this great community of ours.

Cheers...
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mading1309

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To be honest, I have some reservations about this decision. US investors only invest if they are very likely to profit. I currently don't see any option for this in case B4X will come for free. I do not hope that with B4X become free, in the near future license fees will be incurred per publication or that certain download volumes in the Play Store. or other stores will be charged.
I will feel better if the license terms stay the way they are.

anyway thanks to @Erl for his energy and time and idea for this great and useful development tools
 
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engvidal

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To be honest, I have some reservations about this decision. US investors only invest if they are very likely to profit. I currently don't see any option for this in case B4X will come for free. I do not hope that with B4X become free, in the near future license fees will be incurred per publication or that certain download volumes in the Play Store. or other stores will be charged.
I will feel better if the license terms stay the way they are.

anyway thanks to @Erl for his energy and time and idea for this great and useful development tools

I think the same.
Free forever?
My suggestion is that instead of donations, you should be charged,
for example US$ 10 / year to maintain the support as it is today, excellent.

Thanks to this tool, I didn't give up on mobile programming.

Vidal
 

Syd Wright

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To be honest, I have some reservations about this decision. US investors only invest if they are very likely to profit. I currently don't see any option for this in case B4X will come for free. I do not hope that with B4X become free, in the near future license fees will be incurred per publication or that certain download volumes in the Play Store. or other stores will be charged.
I will feel better if the license terms stay the way they are.

anyway thanks to @Erl for his energy and time and idea for this great and useful development tools
I hope it's not Google.... If that would be the case then I think Google's aim would be to buy and kill B4A in favour of its own products, in particular Flutter, just like Microsoft bought Nokia to kill it in favour of Windows Mobile.
Like you I am also wondering what the incentives for the US investor are, but I don't think that question will be answered because of the confidential nature of Erel's agreement with this invester. Phrases like "There is no such thing as a free lunch" and "Only the Sun rises for nothing" spring to mind... One thing is clear, B4A users have not been consulted nor have had a say in the matter. All we can do is hope that everything turns out for the best for all stakeholders. I'm sure the whole matter has given Erel many sleepness nights and his decision has not been made lightheartedly.
 

Star-Dust

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I’m very proud in the continuing progress of B4X tools. I’m also very proud to be part of this amazing developers community.

In the last couple of years, I have a growing feeling that B4X tools do not realize their potential. While there are all kinds of development tools, B4X offers a unique set of features: simple, powerful, mature, great community, RAD, native, cross platform and more.
B4X tools are an excellent choice for a wide range of real-world use cases.

So, the question is how to make B4X more popular? Obviously, it is not a simple nor a short-term task.
A clear growth barrier is the fact that unlike most development tools today, B4A and B4i are not free. This wasn’t the case 10 years ago.

The big announcement today is that B4A will become free in a few weeks. The framework - set of internal libraries, will be open sourced.

We will accept contributions for B4A like currently done with B4J.
We've also secured funds from a US investor who shares my vision of making B4X a popular development tool. These resources will allow us to further expand.

How can you help?

Help us spread the word about B4X.
What does that mean in practice?
 

José J. Aguilar

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Licensed User
Fantastic news!!
I was saving to update my license. This way, I will make donations.

I think B4A price is affordable, but probably not for everybody, so, good news to grow the community up.

My best wishes in this new stage, here we will be to help.
 

kisoft

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This large investor is probably Google. I don't know whether to cry or be happy. @Erel please say it's not Google ..
 
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