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Martin Larsen

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If that would be the case then I think Google's aim would be to buy and kill B4A in favour of its own products,
B4X is not big enough for any company to invest in only to kill it. It is not a threat. Yet, at least.

Erel, do you have the same plans with B4i? (I understand if you currently are not willing/able to tell)
 
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kisoft

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So when can we expect the first free version? Will you still work alone or will you work as a team? Give us some more details here ....
 

NJDude

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Those are good news.

This move have positive and negative consequences however, I like the idea of Open Source, in this community alone are many excellent developers who could expand and improve the product in short time as opposed to just Erel doing all the work, and that's a big plus, the negative side is fragmentation that comes along with open source projects as well as messy code.

I was an early adopter and big fan of B4A, I haven't done much lately but still B4X is a great product.
 

Ferbis

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Good news Erel!!

May be in the next future will come a posibility to the comunity to invest too in some way in this big challenge. ;)
 

Erel

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Martin D.

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I bought the license a couple of days ago and it doesn't bother me at all. Well worth the price.
I'm sure your decision is a good move Erel, especially with secured funds. Also a good step to avoid being tossed aside by incoming competition -- cross-platform development MUST be the big thing right now.
 

Jorge M A

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Personally, I have not published any Donationware, nor do I have any intention of doing so.
But what about all the colleagues who do have this scheme in effect?
 

HAH

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Hi @Erel
Are you considering/planning to merge all IDEs in ONE IDE? this will be the BIGGGGGEST move
 

Erel

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Are you considering/planning to merge all IDEs in ONE IDE? this will be the BIGGGGGEST move
I'm not sure that such change will be as significant as you describe. The 4 IDEs actually share 90% of the code between them and the IDE is small enough that it is not a big deal to have 4 copies of it.
It is also very simple to share code modules and alayouts between the projects.
There is no doubt that there will be advantages for a single IDE and it will probably happen at some point.
 

Peter Simpson

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There is no doubt that there will be advantages for a single IDE and it will probably happen at some point.
Well, I never ever thought I would read that you would say that. 2 surprises in 1 day, what's going on Erel?
Have I been abducted my Aliens, am I currently being probed by them bringing on all sorts of hallucinations?
Is what you are saying today a good dream of mine, and when I finally wake up nothing has changed at all ;)?

Hey, what, err so many questions, but no answers lol 👍
 

Multiverse app

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Just to comment that to grow your business you will need to expand your team. Having been a one-man band all the time since you started has most likely hampered your growth. There are a number of experts in the forum that are good candidates to be placed on the payrole to support the technical developments and who can also assertain that B4x can go on if its founder is for whatever reason no longer available. However, the core discipline that needs to be expanded is the marketing and sales division.
So far B4x is not very visible on the Internet and thus there is the lack of awareness for the great possibility of your development tools.
Very true
 

kisoft

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There is a chance to create new, paid, interesting and attractive libraries that will enrich application development. I think this is a good way to further develop the B4X environment.
 

Syd Wright

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....to create new, paid, interesting and attractive libraries that will enrich application development. I think this is a good way to further develop the B4X environment.
I hear what you say. However, the perception in future will be that B4A is open source and freeware. To a certain degree this will cause confusion in the market if for specific (third party) libraries the developer needs to pay. I don't see a solution, just to flag the potential controversies and maybe to anticipate negative reactions. I took a look at how Github goes about this: https://github.com/pricing. To some degree Erel's new approach resembles Github. I'm not sure how Github deals with paid libraries.
 

andymc

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This is great news! Well done @Erel
I've produced videos on developing games using B4A and advised people to get it when asked, but the price always puts people off. I think it's because they know they can get Android Studio, Unity, or Godot for free.
But now I can advise people to get B4A knowing there's a bigger chance they actually will. Building the community and improving the toolset. Congratulations.
 

Roberto P.

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I believe it is fair to pay for the software, examples and support we receive.
Erel will certainly have made his assessments and made his free decision.

I think that to make B4X even more popular, we need to accelerate the integration process between the B4A, B4J and B4I environments, which allows us to actually write a single code for Apple and Android. I also believe that object-oriented programming must be enhanced to have inheritance.
Finally, I believe that a significant push could derive from B4W (WEB), to enhance the development of Web and WebApp applications, which can be compiled with PhoneGap \ Cordova.

Thanks for everything
 
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