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Star-Dust · Feb 13, 2022

And if I created a customizable keyboard for each EditText (or TextView)?

B4X:

Sub Globals
    'These global variables will be redeclared each time the activity is created.
    Private SD_Keyboard1 As SD_Keyboard
    Private TextField1 As EditText
    Private TextField2 As EditText
End Sub

Sub Main
    Dim Ck As CustomKey
    Ck.Initialize
    Ck.AddRowSimpleChar(Regex.Split(",","Q,W,E,R,T,Y,U,I,O,P"))
    Ck.AddRowSimpleChar(Regex.Split(",","A,S,D,F,G,H,J,K,L"))
    Ck.AddRowSimpleChar(Regex.Split(",","Z,X,C,V,B,N,M"))
    
    SD_Keyboard1.Add(TextField1,Ck,"TextField1")
    
    
    Dim Ck As CustomKey
    Ck.Initialize
    Ck.AddRowSimpleChar(Regex.Split(",","1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0,?"))
    Ck.AddRowSimpleChar(Regex.Split(",","Q,W,E,R,T,Y,U,I,O,P"))
    Ck.AddRowSimpleChar(Regex.Split(",","A,S,D,F,G,H,J,K,L"))
    Ck.AddRowSimpleChar(Regex.Split(",","Z,X,C,V,B,N,M"))
    
    SD_Keyboard1.Add(TextField2,Ck,"TextField2")
End Sub

Star-Dust · Feb 13, 2022

Quache step forward. Completed for B4A and B4J (for the moment not in b4i) and handles keys like TAB, DEL, CANC, ESC, SHIFT.
It is also possible to set the next focus after concluding with ENTER or NEXT

B4X:

Dim Ck As CustomKey
    Ck.Initialize
    Ck.AddRowSimpleChar(Regex.Split(",","Q,W,E,R,T,Y,U,I,O,P"))
    Ck.AddRowSimpleChar(Regex.Split(",","A,S,D,F,G,H,J,K,L,Canc"))
    Ck.AddRowSimpleChar(Regex.Split(",","Z,X,C,V,B,N,M,Next" ))
 
    SD_Keyboard1.Add(TextField1,"TextField1",Ck,TextField2)
   
    Dim Ck As CustomKey
    Ck.Initialize
    Ck.AddRowSimpleChar(Regex.Split(",","1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0,?"))
    Ck.AddRowSimpleChar(Regex.Split(",","Q,W,E,R,T,Y,U,I,O,P,Canc" ))
    Ck.AddRowSimpleChar(Regex.Split(",","A,S,D,F,G,H,J,K,L,Del"))
    'Ck.AddRowSimpleChar(Regex.Split(",","Z,X,C,V,B,N,M,Enter"))

    Dim L As List
    L.Initialize
    L.Add(Ck.cKey("Z",90,"z",122))
    l.Add(Ck.cKey("X",90,"x",122))
    L.Add(Ck.cKey("C",67,"c",99))
    l.Add(Ck.cKey("V",86,"v",118))
    l.Add(Ck.cKey("B",66,"b",98))
    l.Add(Ck.cKey("N",78,"n",110))
    L.Add(Ck.cKey("M",77,"m",109))
    l.Add(Ck.cKey("ENTER",13,"enter",13))
    Ck.AddRow(L)

    SD_Keyboard1.Add(TextField2,"TextField2",Ck,TextField1)

It does not absorb the original events but it lifts them anyway

B4X:

Private Sub TextField1_FocusChanged (HasFocus As Boolean)
    Log("Focus1: " & HasFocus)
End Sub
Private Sub TextField2_FocusChanged (HasFocus As Boolean)
    Log("Focus2: " & HasFocus)
End Sub
Private Sub TextField1_EnterPressed
    Log("Enter 1")
End Sub
Private Sub TextField2_EnterPressed
    Log("Enter 2")
End Sub
Private Sub TextField2_TextChanged (Old As String, New As String)
    Log("Change: " & Old & " " & New)
End Sub

Star-Dust · Feb 13, 2022

Star-Dust · Feb 14, 2022

I'm starting to work on the graphics

Star-Dust · Feb 14, 2022

Key Animation

udg · Feb 15, 2022

I guess that the heart-shaped keys are for Valentine's day

Very nice job. Maybe a more appropriate forum area will be Additonal libraries (even if it's still an ongoing project). Eventually prefix it as [Preview] until ready.
I understand you initial selection for ChitChat was to see how much interest your next lib could beckon..well, now you know it..it's broad ?

Sandman · Feb 15, 2022

I'm not criticizing, I'm genuinely curious:

What's the purpose of this keyboard? What problem is it meant to solve instead of the built-in keyboard?

Magma · Feb 15, 2022

@Sandman ...disable keys... combinations... give a better UI with the specific keys you want... ...i think is helpful...

ps: not needed yet... but i know that.. exists

Star-Dust · Feb 15, 2022

Sandman said:
I'm not criticizing, I'm genuinely curious:

What's the purpose of this keyboard? What problem is it meant to solve instead of the built-in keyboard?

I do not know. I think no real purpose, like several of my libraries, just some graphics.
The most downloaded libraries (at least of mine) are the ones that do nothing but have nice graphics.

Someone was using a 7 year old custom keyboard that conflicted with my library, but only because the custom keyboard was poorly developed.
The person took out my library which I have developed with a lot of work to keep the poorly made keyboard one. This bothered me a lot, I just wanted to show that I could do a better, custom keyboard class with high graphics without bugs in just 2 hours.

I saw the challenge. He solved this problem

Star-Dust · Feb 15, 2022

I add that the keyboard on can customize with the IME library.
So you probably don't need other libraries, but for some reason unknown to me others think differently.
I've learned to accept by experiencing customers asking for the strangest things

rabbitBUSH · Feb 16, 2022

Star-Dust said:
I've learned to accept by experiencing customers asking for the strangest things

OMG you're living my life !

Sandman said:
What's the purpose of this keyboard? What problem is it meant to solve instead of the built-in keyboard?

I guess I see this sort of idea as similar to the good old days when people wrote code to "pretty-print" code listings in hardcopy to try and make it more readable. In this case it would graphically make keyboards pretty and "attractive" maybe??

the twisted-boy in me also just likes the idea of a customisable keyboard that messes with the users' heads. imagine leaving out all the vowels for instance - rearranging the keys each time one is pressed - the variations are almost endless. jump to a different language board randomly (but hey that would be a nice intentional programmer controlled language option choice - as SD notes above).

????????

pretty printing was apparently non-trivial according to a friend of mine who tried it as a student project.

agraham · Feb 17, 2022

You've obviously put a lot of effort into this. What would be nice is a way to hide and show it so it duplicates the appearance and disappearance of the usual keyboard.

Unfortunately I briefly get a flash of the normal IME when focusing on the text field but I guess this is inevitable as you have to close the IME when it Android opens it.

Star-Dust · Feb 17, 2022

agraham said:
You've obviously put a lot of effort into this. What would be nice is a way to hide and show it so it duplicates the appearance and disappearance of the usual keyboard.

Unfortunately I briefly get a flash of the normal IME when focusing on the text field but I guess this is inevitable as you have to close the IME when it Android opens it.

It depends, sometimes it doesn't even appear yet I still can't understand.
I don't have to put NOEDIT because the cursor disappears, but when I open it I close it immediately.
In very rare cases, the keyboard closes quickly.
It is under development, I have to test it on different devices to understand better

Sandman · Feb 17, 2022

Star-Dust said:
It depends, sometimes it doesn't even appear yet I still can't understand.
I don't have to put NOEDIT because the cursor disappears, but when I open it I close it immediately.
In very rare cases, the keyboard closes quickly.
It is under development, I have to test it on different devices to understand better

A while back I did some research on keyboards and found that it's really a mess. Seems it's one area where Google didn't put a whole lot of effort, so my best guess is that you won't be able to do all that you want. Also consider there are many different keyboards from different companies, with their own quirks. Difficult situation.

Here's the research I did:

How to disable keyboard suggestions

There are numerous threads in the forum about this, but I didn't have much luck with them. I wanted to disable the suggestions, but they always showed. I saw one suggestion setting the field to be for email, which disabled the suggestions - but that's clearly just a dirty workaround. This is...

www.b4x.com

Star-Dust · Feb 17, 2022

Sandman said:
A while back I did some research on keyboards and found that it's really a mess. Seems it's one area where Google didn't put a whole lot of effort, so my best guess is that you won't be able to do all that you want. Also consider there are many different keyboards from different companies, with their own quirks. Difficult situation.

Here's the research I did:

How to disable keyboard suggestions

There are numerous threads in the forum about this, but I didn't have much luck with them. I wanted to disable the suggestions, but they always showed. I saw one suggestion setting the field to be for email, which disabled the suggestions - but that's clearly just a dirty workaround. This is...

www.b4x.com

Yes I guess it is a mess, in ios I have other problems I have to build a way to make the cursor appear ....

However, this library is a pastime, as I said it has no particular purpose, if it does not turn out well I will not cry

agraham · Feb 17, 2022

Sandman said:
A while back I did some research on keyboards and found that it's really a mess.

It certainly is. The keyboard APIs are a badly designed joke. I had endless (and unsuccessful) trouble trying to get an Activity to behave properly when the device was rotated with the keyboard open. Different keybords - different problems, with the keyboard events providing stupidly wrong data and the Activity adopting stupidly wrong sizes - presumably because the IME was giving it bad data.

Sandman · Feb 17, 2022

This is probably not overly relevant here, but I stumbled on this post when I just now was searching for something else.

[customview] Numpad

A custom view made of text field (FloatLabeledTextField) and a small numpad that appears when the user clicks on the field. Similar to the B4A numpad customview: https://www.b4x.com/android/forum/threads/customview-numpad.64191/#content It depends on iUI8 (v1.20+) library. You need to add...

www.b4x.com

Star-Dust · Feb 17, 2022

Sandman said:
This is probably not overly relevant here, but I stumbled on this post when I just now was searching for something else.

[customview] Numpad

A custom view made of text field (FloatLabeledTextField) and a small numpad that appears when the user clicks on the field. Similar to the B4A numpad customview: https://www.b4x.com/android/forum/threads/customview-numpad.64191/#content It depends on iUI8 (v1.20+) library. You need to add...

www.b4x.com

Thanks I'll watch it

Star-Dust · Feb 17, 2022

Sandman said:
This is probably not overly relevant here, but I stumbled on this post when I just now was searching for something else.

[customview] Numpad

A custom view made of text field (FloatLabeledTextField) and a small numpad that appears when the user clicks on the field. Similar to the B4A numpad customview: https://www.b4x.com/android/forum/threads/customview-numpad.64191/#content It depends on iUI8 (v1.20+) library. You need to add...

www.b4x.com

Here, too, you don't see the blinking cursor. It is important to understand where he writes

Star-Dust · Feb 18, 2022

Version for iOs. I thought it should be more difficult than Android, there were several challenges, but it was solved more simply. On android some problems remain

I will release a demo version soon

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