Other Another nice & smart Google rule?

[LucaMs]

A member received this "warning" (?) about his new app:

Publishers cannot place Google ads on pages or apps where dynamic content (e.g. live chat, instant messaging, auto-updating comments, etc.) is the primary goal.

His app mainly uses FCM to share a list of data between friends; after he added a chat.

Now... what "cannot place Google ads" means? That he can place ads of different providers?

This would also mean that anyone who uses FCM could not add ads - unless these FCM messages are completely secondary to the purpose of the app.

Too often Google brings out incomprehensible things!

 

[JohnC]

I think what they are saying is that if you have a page in your app that is displaying dynamic content (live chat, instant messages), you can NOT also have ads on that same page.

In other words, your app needs to display the ads on a separate page that is separate from the page that displays the live chat/messaging threads.

You might be able to get around this rule by having the app display an ad when the app is first started, but then hide the ad when the chat screen is being displayed.

 

[LucaMs]

I think what they are saying is that if you have a page in your app that is displaying dynamic content (live chat, instant messages), you can NOT also have ads on the same page.

In other words, your app needs to display the ads on a separate page that is separate from the page that displays the live chat/messaging threads.

ads on pages or apps

 

[LucaMs]

Abandon Google, publish on Amazon!

 

[JohnC]

If you can't have ads at all in apps that have chat, that would be unfortunate.

 

[LucaMs]

If you can't have ads at all in apps that have chat, that would be unfortunate.

and not even if you use messaging in general, like Firebase Cloud Messaging!

 

[LucaMs]

Amazon and other ads providers! This is the only solution I can see!

 

[sorex]

Abandon Google, publish on Amazon!

then you still can't put google ads in it

 

[sorex]

Amazon and other ads providers! This is the only solution I can see!

too bad most of the others can't be used (no B4A libs) or they don't generate a lot revenue (mostly pay per install onle)

 

[LucaMs]

then you still can't put google ads in it

I know, not from AdMob, but then Google will have many apps far fewer apps on its market.
Also... "spread B4X" and spread as much as possible how Google is...

 

[LucaMs]

too bad most of the others can't be used (no B4A libs) or they don't generate a lot revenue (mostly pay per install onle)

There are libraries.

 

[JordiCP]

Publishers cannot place Google ads on pages or apps where dynamic content (e.g. live chat, instant messaging, auto-updating comments, etc.) is the primary goal.

As I understand the sentence, specially by its end "...is the primary goal", it only applies to those apps that are themselves chats, forums, ... but not to those that implement it as an extra (a game with a chat to talk with your oponents), neither those ones that use FCM for this or other purposes. But who knows...

 

[LucaMs]

I did a little "test", right now.

First 12 chat apps containing ads I found:

RandoChat - Chat roulette - Apps on Google Play RandoChat is anonymous random chat app to meet new people. You don’t need to create any login or account. Just start one on one chat with a single tap. Very Simple! Your messages will be deleted after sending to the other person. Your IP or other connection data will not be stored. You should... play.google.com

SKOUT - Meet, Chat, Go Live - Apps on Google Play Instantly meet people near you or around the world! See who is broadcasting in Live. Broadcast yourself and feel the love! Discover new friends nearby or around the globe. Millions of people are connecting and meeting through Skout every day. Use exciting in-app features to increase your chances... play.google.com

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.myyearbook.m

Waplog - Free Dating app - Meet & Live Video Chat - Apps on Google Play Waplog Dating App The fastest-growing dating app with more than 90 million users worldwide. Waplog makes it easy to connect and find friends, meet new and local singles, find dates, and video chat with strangers. Dating apps have a tendency to stay conventional. We are taking dating to a... play.google.com

JAUMO Dating – Flirt With Local Singles - Apps on Google Play 💋 More Local Singles. Simpler Flirting. Real Dating. Do you want a better dating experience? A free dating app that really works? One where you can be yourself and find comfort in connecting with genuine singles? Then Jaumo is the right online dating service for you to mingle with attractive... play.google.com

Free Dating - Apps on Google Play Eris is not only a popular dating application to meet millions of singles near you but also a social platform for fun and entertainment. You are going to contact to many singles living near you and will be surprised when you find your perfect match easily Our social network application will... play.google.com

Video Chat W-Match : Dating App, Meet & Video Chat - Apps on Google Play Join the perfect dating app! Start a video chat and meet people all around the world.💕 W- Match is the best dating and chatting app to meet new people around you. And on W-Match you create your own luck! 😍 🔥 Simply like or pass on other people. If you both like each other, you will be matched... play.google.com

Badoo Dating App — Chat, Date & Meet New People - Apps on Google Play Welcome to Badoo, the place to date honestly 💜 In a society that profits on our self-doubt, Badoo is the place where it pays to be the real, unapologetic you. We fight the ambiguity of modern dating with authentic, unfiltered conversation. We believe real connection is born from being honest in... play.google.com

Date Way- Dating App to Chat, Flirt & Meet Singles - Apps on Google Play Dating doesn't have to be awkward use Date Way to improve your love life. Date Way has millions of active users and brings unlikely people together. Chat, meet and start dating without the hassle of continuously swiping. Sign-up in less than 30 seconds and start chatting with people nearby... play.google.com

LOVOO ® - Apps on Google Play Love. Live. LOVOO. Dive into the world of LOVOO: Interesting people, exciting dates, and – with a bit of luck – love all await you. 35 million matches and 250 million messages a month speak for themselves. Not only does LOVOO help you with dating and flirting, it also guides you on your... play.google.com

Azar - Apps on Google Play Azar allows you to talk and make friends with people from over 190 countries. • Over 300 million downloads worldwide! • More than 70 billion matches! • Featured in Google Play Store in over 130+ countries! ▷ Discover & Connect! Azar allows you to meet someone new at the turn of each swipe... play.google.com

SayHi Chat, Meet New People - Apps on Google Play Say Hi can help you find new people nearby! It helps you find love by chat, meet and date new friends! You're going to fall in love with SayHi by using the following features: 1. Meet and chat with nearby people. Locate fellow users on the map and engage them in exciting conversations. 2... play.google.com

I chose to register to the third because it was the first one where I saw that the screenshots were cut so as not to show that it contains banners.
It is MeetMe - 50M+ downloads.

As I had assumed, the cut screenshots are intended to hide the presence of banners to the "guest", the one who is only visiting that page, since it is everywhere, even in the chat itself.

As I understand the sentence, specially by its end "...is the primary goal", it only applies to those apps that are themselves chats

I "suspect" that the "primary goal" of MeetMe is to chat; or, better, the only goal.

Note that some b4x.com members have had problems from Google which says that banners must not be very close to the main/most used views of an Activity, as in this case the box for entering the message to be sent.

Here I think to understand that the ads provider is MoPub which, perhaps, has nothing to do with Google. Does this mean what I thought I understood in Google's message, that for Google the only important thing is that its advertising is not shown?


I don't understand if Google knows what it does, sometimes; maybe it needs a psychiatrist. Or maybe some of his employees try to enjoy trying to exercise their little "power".

 

[LucaMs]

I don't understand if Google knows what it does, sometimes; maybe it needs a psychiatrist; or maybe some of his employees try to enjoy trying to exercise their little "power".

Just to be clear, I take responsibility for what I write (unfortunately mine is only a nickname, I made a wrong choice) and therefore Anywhere Software has none; also, I say that I'm not an employee of Anywhere Software (unfortunately )

 

[LordZenzo]

ecco, ora bisogna cercare MoPub come si usa

 

[LucaMs]

support.google.com

 

[LucaMs]

Ok, now I understand better: Google italian message version is... wrong!

This is the original, in english:

Google, in its italian message, did not specify "of the page"; it wrotes:
Publishers cannot place Google ads on pages or apps where dynamic content (e.g. live chat, instant messaging, auto-updating comments, etc.) is the primary goal.

However, If so, you cannot add a banner to a chat Activity (IF IT IS SO!), but... you must be careful not to put the banner ad too close to the chat input textbox (see my previous post).

 

[sorex]

in your screenshot with a fat finger you will accidently press that banner for sure when trying to press the input field. that's what they want to avoid.

I don't know why they don't like it on the chat apps tho. maybe because your focus will be on the chat text and not on the banner?
when the banner changes to another one you will notice it and look at it anyway.

 

[LucaMs]

in your screenshot with a fat finger you will accidently press that banner for sure when trying to press the input field. that's what they want to avoid.

I "know" (understand) this reason; what I meant is that they write, not literally "do not place banners too close to a chat input box" and elsewhere "you cannot place banners on your chat app [in italian!] - chat page".

maybe because your focus will be on the chat text and not on the banner?

I suspect that if you don't put the banner this thing wouldn't improve very much

 

[Alexander Stolte]

On Lovoo is it funny to see, on the "Match" tab where you can like or dislike a person, the banner on the bottom is reloading after some seconds and everytime i click on the profile from the person...

Or suddenly a new activity pops up with advertising and you click on it ...
And this is since over a year so on this app....