B4w(indows phones) what do you say?

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by ilan, Jun 15, 2015.

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Would you purchase b4w(indows8) ?

  1. Yes, no doubt!

    60.5%
  2. Maybe, depends on the price

    7.9%
  3. No, i have to much work with b4a/b4i/b4j no time for a new b4...

    31.6%
  1. ilan

    ilan Expert Licensed User

    Please vote if you would like to see b4w(indows) maybe if there would be enough interest erel could surprise us with a new baby!
     
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  2. Enrique Gonzalez R

    Enrique Gonzalez R Well-Known Member Licensed User

    But wouldnt be windows 10?
     
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  3. lemonisdead

    lemonisdead Well-Known Member Licensed User

    I am in for any new b4x product. But please what could be the advantage because we already have the b4j ?
    And we can already wrap the jar into an exe
     
  4. ilan

    ilan Expert Licensed User

    windows 8 (10) phones!
     
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  5. lemonisdead

    lemonisdead Well-Known Member Licensed User

    I am more than in if it could be the case (suffering too much when I have some WP app to do)
     
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  6. LucaMs

    LucaMs Expert Licensed User

    No, because:

    1) Erel will never develop b4W, I think :D
    2) Windows will always have a limited slice of the market
    3) MS tools for Windows Mobile will always be excellent
     
  7. Douglas Farias

    Douglas Farias Expert Licensed User

    Windows Phone + cash for developers.
    All users of windows phone want app, developers dont want to make this, good chance to make money.
    And a good chance to make anywhere software more important, windows, ios and android :eek:

    And yes, exist a lot of IDE to work on windows phone, visual studio etc..
    but the easy is b4W, exist a lot of IDE for android Too, but the most easy and good its b4a.
     
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  8. susu

    susu Well-Known Member Licensed User

    Sorry but I don't like the idea. There're many B4x products for Erel to maintain. In my opinion, since B4i released B4Android and B4J are slowly updated. What if there was new B4W? Erel is great/excellent/incredible but he's not a machine or time traveller.
     
  9. Peter Simpson

    Peter Simpson Well-Known Member Licensed User

    Windows Phone market share is just too small for Erel to even bother about at the moment. Once (if) Windows Phone market shares reaches a nice big percentage value (lets say 25% to 30%), then maybe Erel will spend the time creating B4W.

    Current Windows Phone shares in Europe is about 10.1% as of Q2 2015...
     
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  10. LucaMs

    LucaMs Expert Licensed User


    ... also, the power of B4X is that it simplifies the development of the apps, compared with native languages of the other systems.
    This would not be true with Windows.
     
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  11. Filippo

    Filippo Expert Licensed User

    if we wait until the market is larger then might be too late for us already.;)
     
  12. Erel

    Erel Administrator Staff Member Licensed User

    You should edit the title to make it clear that you are asking about Windows Phone (which is not the same as Windows 8).
     
  13. DonManfred

    DonManfred Expert Licensed User

    Additional to that we already have a B4Windows 8. It is called B4J :D
     
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  14. eurojam

    eurojam Well-Known Member Licensed User

    ohhh .... then I have to change my avatar.....

    firstexit.png
     
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  15. sorex

    sorex Expert Licensed User

  16. ilan

    ilan Expert Licensed User

    hi susu, I don't agree with you, I think erel updates release are to high, almost every 3 month new update and I think he will anyway need assistants in his company so if he will have more clients he will grow with them and everything will run smooth.


    that means that less developers are interested in this market and that will give you a good opportunity to sell your apps for those 10% (i guess 10% are few million users) and don't forget that almost every home has 1 pc (or more, i got 4 windows pc and 1 mac) so windows is still in this business and they don't sleep, i believe they will cover much more with new products and win10. people are always looking for something new and windows phone are normally much cheaper then ios/android phones, and your apps can also run on every windows notebook that runs windows 8/10 so your apps will not be only for windows phones, also for tablets and notebooks.

    you have lot of other great tools outside so b4x is not only a great tool its more the support you get. i don't know any forum where people spent their time to create libs/full project and share them for free, so basically erel (anywhere software) not only offer great development tools they also offer great support!!
    and btw develop desktop apps for windows i prefer VB then b4j but to make windows phones apps you cannot do with VB!

    +1 , you are correct filippo!!

    sorry erel you are right i changed the title but cannot change the "Question"

    my mistake, meant windows phones/tablets...


    i like your new avatar :D
     
    Last edited: Jun 16, 2015
  17. ilan

    ilan Expert Licensed User


    from the link you post i see that ios only has 5x more sells then Microsoft, so now it sounds much better then 2.7% :D

    i can live with the fact that i am developing an app that will reach only 50 million users :D
    http://winsupersite.com/windows-phone/windows-phone-device-stats-january-2014
     
  18. ilan

    ilan Expert Licensed User

    erel also has b4ppc that is for OLD windows phones so maybe small changes will make it b4w, but maybe i am wrong i have no clue whats the difference between those OS are.
     
  19. sorex

    sorex Expert Licensed User

    Mornin' Ilan,

    I never checked it either but I guess it's all .NET WPF based so you'll need Visual Studio's compiler to build the exe's.

    also notice that you have RTM versions of phones and tablets aswell which are cheaper but only run some specific kind of apps (M$ only apps?)

    When I look around at work, family etc I only know 3 people who have a Win phone.

    2 of them got it because they could get it cheap with a renewal of mobile subscription but regretted it already.

    the other one is my chief at work and prefers windows above android/ios although he nags that most of the apps don't even exist for it.
     
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  20. Jmu5667

    Jmu5667 Well-Known Member Licensed User

    Windows Mobile is gaining traction in the corporate sector. Our company have had to develop or mobile apps for windows phone 8.1 to keep our customers happy. As much as it it a pain to have deal with learning windows phone dev environment it mustbe done, and I think we will see B4w in the future.
     
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