Windows 11?

Behind the scenes (and this is only my personal opinion rightly or wrongly) this Windows 11 update with limits is to do with increasing PC sales for manufacturers and increasing users dependency on Office 365 as well as other Microsoft online services.

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It's always been that way with Microsoft.
If it wasn't, PC manufacturers wouldn't be selling so many new PCs and Microsoft wouldn't be selling new licenses.

If it wasn't, PC manufacturers wouldn't be selling so many new PCs and Microsoft wouldn't be selling new licenses.

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Microsoft and other like Intel, Amd and pc manufacturing like HP, Dell, must be very very happy they probably sell more billions computers around the globe, and the only thing that we have to fight this is leave the Window market, but that's almost impossible for now.

The only other alternative is to go with Linux distro, Either Debian, Ubuntu, Kubuntu LM and others distro, For my part i'm putting and setting my new pc with Kubuntu Version 21.04.xx or even the Ubuntu studio or something like this on my new PC and also setup a NAS server on that same Pc, something that windows can't do easily.

I will setup a VM in that pc so i can install windows 10 on that VM and use the software that i need only on that VM
Hopessly thing will work out my way, it is a setup that is very complicated and long in the process of installing all this software and configuring this, I will probably use one pc with the Windows 10 but that's it, I'm moving slowly to the linux world and hopefully all my other pc will work as well on the same distro or something like that.

One thing that make window so powerfull, is the ability for us developpers to create some nice programs using the developper environment and language Like Visual Basic.net or C#, B4x and other simple language to develop application fast. This is something that linux lack, no real developement environment except C++, Piton and other small version of basic that are limited.

Anyway i'm moving out of the windows world and Microsoft can take their software and shuf-it you know where.

I hope that this Microsoft move will push the linux developers to create more sofisticated compiler and language so developers will make nicer apps that peoples can use and create some fantastic stuff in the linux world and peoples will slowly move to the linus environment, but that will take sometimes

So in the meanwhile keep buying new PC and new Windows so these company's will get richer and richer and us will get poorer and poorer with time.

In the 90's I worked a lot with Unix workstation because the skin application had been a CAD application and it ran only on Unix.
I was very happy that in the beginning of 2000 the CAD application was finally reprogrammed to Windows.
The application ran much faster and the administration was also much easier.

With Linux I have also occupied myself a little.
Just installed it a few times, looked at it and uninstalled it again. I think something like that is not for me.
I need a PC that I can work with and not experiment every day.
Of course, this is just my opinion.

every OS made for some reason... (Network-Server/End User..etc)

Unix/Linux... having better security at networks and they have millions of server apps/utils
Windows and MacOS... are more user friendly... and giving GUI apps for end-users tried for decades...

The bad thing here... was that Windows 10 didn;t need anything more (from Windows 7 version) from hardware req. - but after thousands of updates they thought that will be easier and faster to use latest processors "set of commands"... well if you see history of MacOS - Apple always did that...

so after 2 versions of systems and thousands / millions of updates Microsoft asked us to "upgrade" our pcs... if we want ofcourse... and we have expiration until 2025 ! - I think giving us time... and hope if someone else create better OS...

If you see Ubuntu latest versions you will see min. requirements that never exist at first versions.... now you need at least 2GB... and is better to have 4GB RAM...

I am just trying to convert my old windows machine and copy the partition on a new disk much larger, cause the other one was almost full, and it is not that easy even with the right software.

For me linux is another chance to work with another OS and try to learn this OS, but if someone tell me that Linux will replace Windows, i will say no way, Linux shure have it's properties and problems, but the more i use the Ubuntu Studio interface, the more i find it difficult to go fully to linux, it is never like windows in terms of app, and user friendlyness as windows.

Shure there are some nice apps in linux but i use it mostly for music production and management of my instruments and hardware that i have, but if you compare the two, windows win without a doubt for it's easyness of the interfaces and possibility's that the window offer.

I install Ubuntu studio and try to have a linux share over the network to save my backups and disk images that i made, i have no more room anymore for those backups, and one of the old drive that i use has just died, so i put 2 2tb drives and 1 320gb drive for linux ubuntu studio and share the other 2, but installing Samba and configuring it took me about 2 days, before it work.

So unless you are very familliar with the Kconsole and the linux command, you will do like me struggle to find out why that thing did'nt work in the fisrt place. So if ever linux or any distro of linux want to gain market share, they will gone have to arrange some sort of standard and try to get rig of the kConsole as much as they can, and bring some standard command from the kconsole to a GUI interface, cause there is no way that people without knowledge of computer manipulation can go true linux and give up after only a short time. That is the big advantage of windows they, over the years manage to put some standard MSDOS command and bring them to the GUI interface to facilitate the user experience while using Windows.

I like the Ubuntu studio, i think it will do the job, but there are no shortcut, i have to learn the kconsole command to be able to install the linux to my liking. So for now i will use the 2 OS and will see in 2025 what the hell append then. That should be interresting.

Thanks have a good week and enjoy your window while you can.

How about a Windows 11 mobile version?

aeric said:

How about a Windows 11 mobile version

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That's just another pie-in the-sky concept piece with no founding in reality. I don't know why they publish these things - it's as bad as those concept renderings for phones that will never exist.

I thought that Microsoft stopped with Windows Phones... (Windows 8 or windows like at Nokia, Lumia) and said that will never make any Windows Phone again !
hmmm... the only thing that can do and will have the support of smartphone factories... is may be an Android Phone with different firmware-android-os and microsoft tools... like edge that in reality is chromium-chrome...

Magma said:

I thought that Microsoft stopped with Windows Phones... (Windows 8 or windows like at Nokia, Lumia) and said that will never make any Windows Phone again !
hmmm... the only thing that can do and will have the support of smartphone factories... is may be an Android Phone with different firmware-android-os and microsoft tools... like edge that in reality is chromium-chrome...

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I also thought Windows 10 is the last version of Windows.

I am wondering what is Microsoft answer to IoT OS. Windows?
Edit: I found it.

aeric said:

I also thought Windows 10 is the last version of Windows.

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Yes it was. Till manufactures made MS to release next version with window dressing and new hardware requirements.

It is windows 10 + Extensionpack 1 = 11 ?

BTW I installed this and have been using it for a while.

1. From time to time the area around the "start" button is un-clickable. I had noticed that there was some king of "invisible" window there the other day. The only solution was to restart the computer.

I'm trying to click on the break-point for example, nothing happens, you will see as i move the mouse to the right, the mouse focus can be changed, but as soon as I move to the left side, dololo.



2. From time to time, it just switches itself off and restarts, on restart it updates the OS.

3. Yesterday I had the first crash. Out of know where, it just showed the smiley that something went wrong with your computer.

4. I read an article that actually there is no reason to change from 10 to 11 as the features ie. enhanced windows 11 security can be applied to win 10.

5. I'm still trying to figure out what is the wow factor here besides 4. (i have not experienced or played enough).

6. My rating so far... I want to de-install it. DONT DO IT! Personally perhaps I will consider it again in 2 years.

After some consideration I am now feeling that perhaps having my computers unable to upgrade to Windows 11 is a "very good thing". Hopefully Windows 10 will now be left to stabilise and be used for what an OS should be used for which is supporting programs running on it. Let Microsoft now concentrate on playing/interfering with Windows 11 adding fripperies and unwanted features while Windows 10 becomes the Windows 7 of the 1920s.

Just an update on the transparent window:

The MiniSearchTool.Exe is the process that someone needs to stop to close the "transparent window". Finally!!! When this shows the area becomes unclickable.

I just got this today:

aeric said:

I just got this today

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I got the same Yesterday and already Updated my Windows 10 to Windows 11. ?

Honestly it was the unproblematic Windows-Version upgrade i´ve ever done.

I started with Windows98 years ago and updated whenever a new Version was available.
Can´t remember the correct order though.
Windows98, Windows XP, Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 10, Windows 11
List may be incomplete as i can not remember all of them ?

DonManfred said:

I got the same Yesterday and already Updated my Windows 10 to Windows 11. ?

Honestly it was the unproblematic Windows-Version upgrade i´ve ever done.

I started with Windows98 years ago and updated whenever a new Version was available.
Can´t remember the correct order though.
Windows98, Windows XP, Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 10, Windows 11
List may be incomplete as i can not remember all of them ?

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Windows ME? ?

aeric said:

Windows ME?

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Ohh, right... Was a short trip with WinME

You've discussed whether W11 will work on your pc and how to check. You also talked about the Android emulator and how to make it work.

My question is: Is it necessary to migrate to W11? What benefits will it bring?