What about guys waving money, get a solution and forgetting you ?

[Star-Dust]

I would like to go back to the main theme and say that it has happened to me several times, of people who contacted me in private asking for help and promising compensation.
I have often given help by refusing compensation, other times I have accepted that I be given compensation.

I have to say that there have been a few occasions of members who have promised a fee but after receiving the solution they have not sent it.

In my opinion it is not an economic problem, because I do not get rich by receiving a salary, nor does the other become poor. They both don't rely on that amount for a living. For me it is more of a moral problem that causes annoyance.

The first times as @Sandman I believed in good faith, but I have to change my mind because it happens only and always with the same members. Some members who later disappeared asked me again for help promising compensation and disappeared again when I gave it. So now I no longer help some members and would return any donations from them if they did.

I'm not sorry for having helped, I would have done it for free too, they spontaneously promised compensation. It seems to me more a talk of sincerity and honesty.

They disagree to expose their names in public even if the temptation to do so is strong.
The credit companies protest your signature and expose your name to the public mockery, this is a community not a bank.

 

[LucaMs]

They disagree to expose their names in public even if the temptation to do so is strong.
The credit companies protest your signature and expose your name to the public mockery, this is a community not a bank.

This is a rather friendly community; to prevent others from getting screwed, I would say it is a duty.

 

[Magma]

I would like to believe that those members are not the same.. I hope they are not..

Because if they are the same... this is a fraud.

 

[tufanv]

I have to say that there have been a few occasions of members who have promised a fee but after receiving the solution they have not sent it.

I don't understand how people do things like this.

 

[Star-Dust]

This is a rather friendly community; to prevent others from getting screwed, I would say it is a duty.

It would only lead to controversy, and anyone who was not honest in keeping their promise would have no qualms about lying and accusing anything to save their reputation. The reader then does not know where the truth is.

I have seen such episodes on the forum. In conclusion, arguing for some money becomes a sterile and petty discussion, devoid of dignity

 

[jahswant]

I has a similar issue with a forum member ! He didn't refuse to pay but by 2 time was reporting the payment to PayPal to cause the refund. I've always have problems with a specific country "USA" . I'm very unlucky with some american customers.

 

[ilan]

if it was a paid job so he offered a payment for a job (solution) then you should report him to warn other members so they wont work for free. but if he was asking just for help and you helped him without closing all details and payment amount then it is also not ok but let it go.

 

[Magma]

Well... I thought having good faith.. for "people" that "live" here in forum for decades... is something that was a must and something like respect... but I am not sure now...

As I said "He was waving money..." and I was just there - you know - at the point - I have it in my mouth/in my brain... Show gave him a solution to the air without asking how and when... but he answered with private message (that not forgetting the donation)... he forgot !

Let the time passed... and asked him again... month passed... after then two more months... and promises in the air... so i ve asked him again one more time and then i will post at the same thread... (sorry Erel will be at old thread)

 

[peacemaker]

If the topic was started, discussed... and no any result finally... it would be strange, if not to publish nick names of the forum that should warn... Even without details.

 

[Magma]

@peacemaker anyone can take his decisions what to do... and at the right thread..

Result? In what? Perhaps in our pockets.. or you mean ban members... that is a moderator job ? ... I think

Hope those members read that thread too... and be more logic..

 

[amorosik]

I think there are two situations, perhaps similar but also very different from each other

1- there is a 'generic' promise of monetary reward for solving a problem
2- there is an EXPLICIT agreement between two or more people to provide the solution to a problem in exchange for a real payment, which can also be of a small amount

In the first case, Ithink it is not possible to ask for anything, even if the solution has been provided

In the second case, the payment can be requested, since there is an agreement between the two parties
It is clear that at least the essential elements must be specified, which are:
1- the WHAT is required (the description of the problem to be solved and the expected or otherwise acceptable times for the supply)
2- the HOW the solution must be provided (it can be a program written in a certain language or the simple explanation of how to do it or some other way)
3- the HOW MUCH and that is how the amount to be paid and the date by which it must be paid

If there has not been an explicit agreement, it is not possible to charge the applicant anything, even if the solution as requested by him has been provided.

 

[peacemaker]

ban members

No. This topic may be just a first counter of names that to be marked. Later marked names can be edited and crossed out, if any changes...
OK, it's just my idea to warn such persons: to count them

 

[jahswant]

Also beware of new members with no reputation asking for help against a payment. They are liable for little.